re: Here's our new reality

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Your bromance for Herman is admirable but he was NEVER going to come to LSU

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Sorry your 11 yr Bromance with Lesticles is over. Ahem. It is over isn't it? You two have broken it off haven't you? We thought we would NEVER see that day you waved goodbye.


Joe, I don't read books but if I did it would be about passing and spread offense.


NEVER = argumentum ad ignorantiam or Appeal to ignorance: you cannot assert something is true that was not attempted. Alleva did not pursue Herman as he was advised and pulled his offer before there was a chance to leverage the LSU/Herman/Aranda/Applewhite advantages and the SECW/SECN/Finebaum/and a 2 SEC team playoff scenario.

sat Nov 26: Armstrong, Herman's agent said Sat the 26th, after Alleva withdrew his offer in the middle of the night, that Herman WAS LSU's for 6 million. That was the only way Herman gets his dream team of Applewhite and Aranda, the SEC West, the SECN, Finebaum repping him everyday, and a double shot at the playoffs. But after Alleva's rude behavior Alleva would likely have needed to go to 7 mm with the housing allowance to show some respect for Michelle, Thomas Danger (TD) Maddock, Maverick, and Priya



You cannot refute Armstrong's statement. Besides why would you unreasonably contend that something possible and desirable for LSU, Herman, Aranda, BR hometown Applewhite, the recruits waiting to commit/flip, and the students wanting to get their picture taken at the Pizza Party was impossible, aside from your 28393 obtuse rants?

Nov 24th: "Anybody that says we haven't been pursuing Fisher is being disingenuous or is simply out of the loop. He's been Joe's guy from the start."

Fisher had a large buyout on top of the 6.9 mm and 7 figure housing allowance. Additionally, Fisher did not want Aranda or any LSU Staff - he wanted a full new Staff hire like Saban's.

Alleva was set on keeping O and Aranda. Herman/Applewhite wanted to be reunited with Aranda and Herman even tried to hire him at TX before LSU upped his pay and title to associate HC.

Tx was also facing a 10 million buyout for Strong.

That day, the 24th, after Fisher turned down Alleva, with the details completely known to Herman, Alleva turns to Herman and gives him a 2 day ultimatum and a hugely discounted offer, and tells him a lie.

It was Alleva's chance at a Legacy hire that would have LSU set for a Dynasty (Herbstreit) run with or without Herman's little bitch Saban retiring. Herman would have likely kept mentoring Saban as he has done for 2 yrs because to Herman sharing is good for the game. Plus I think he admires how willing the little old guy is to learn and how he works as hard as he does to be the best he can be.

Herman was identified as the Must-Get by Alleva's agent yet Alleva continued to offer Fisher the job until he said no on the 24th. Then lied to Herman's agent that there was never any offer. 4 Pinocchios

Alleva bungled a legacy hire and sent the future of LSU into this downward spiral of uncertainty and chaos. 2 yrs to get it right and effed up both times.

His intransigence over the Foley/Sankey FLA game won him the asshat of the SEC award.

Herman had 12 yrs of very successful QB and OC development and his CFPNC semi-final vs Saban was one of dozens of reasons he was the 2016 top hire LINK in the FBS. He was 11-0 as an underdog.


When Joe Alleva told Ed Orgeron he'd gotten the #LSU job, Orgeron picked Alleva up off of his feet, carrying him in his arms.

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I don’t think Ed was the right hire. Herman is an x’s and o’s guy, and the LSU offense needs that. Recruiting is Ed’s strength, and LSU has never had a problem there. Miles had some of the best talent to work with and underperformed year in and year out. I think Orgeron has changed some, but he was such a babbling idiot at OM that I can’t forget all the horror stories of him taking his shirt off to fight people at practice, chugging red bull, and cussing out reporters.

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