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re: Active shooter at Ohio State - at least 8 injured so far
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:28 pm to Lsuchs
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:28 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Like I said, it also assumes the campus police know exactly where to go to respond to the shots fired. Maybe a half mile away and a dead sprint (or drive and sprint) maybe they could get to the scene within a few minutes, but they still need to know exactly where the attack is happening for that to happen.
50 yards is not necessary for a 1-2 minute response time. Cops are easily every half mile. That's less than 1000 yards in your police cruiser. When shots are fired you get your arse in gear.
Even still, several minutes is a long, long time. If a gunman stormed a classroom/lecture hall, they could take out everyone (or most, at least) there within two minutes. The damage is already done by the time the cops even get there, and that doesn't even mean the cops will storm the building and try to take out the bad guy (they may not).
quote:You're free to feel however you want, but these officers have lives and families of their own, and without a legal duty to protect anyone, you'd be hard pressed to find individuals who are willing to rush onto the scene with no information and have them try to save the day by themselves like they are John McClane. They call for backup to increase the odds of taking down the bad guy as well as decrease the chances of injury to themselves and others.
I don't think they should really face jail time. That was an initial emotional exaggeration in my post. If I'm the parent of a student unable to carry a firearm by law, and if a law enforcement officer is hessitant going in to defend the students I would be pretty upset, if not hostile towards said officer.
It's not just about defending students, but doing so responsibly. A cop does the students no good running blindfolded into an ambush. Each "incident" is different and is handled differently. I don't fault the police at all for being cautious. That's why I'm such a proponent of citizen carry.
quote:As has been said, they aren't paid to defend anyone. They aren't necessarily getting cold feet, either. I believe they are acting cautiously, as they should. Some situations allow them to immediately engage a shooter while other situations don't.
What I'm saying is shame on the human being being paid to defend those unable by law to defend themselves who gets cold feet and leaves kids having to resort to something like throwing chairs in desperation to survive
It's not the fault of the police that an evil person decides to take the lives of others. It's not the fault of the police that the school or university has a no-gun policy. It's not the fault of the police that the students have little recourse in fighting back.
Instead of focusing your anger and frustration on the first responders, perhaps you should blame the weapon policies of the schools, or more importantly, put the blame where it belongs: on the evil people killing defenseless students.
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