re: Walking Dead or Game of Thrones

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I mean, really. Not many of my friends watch TWD. I think Tyrion has a bigger impact on pop culture alone than it has.

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I mean, you and your friends won't determine legacy, Lost continually averaged above 10.0 ratings, Walking Dead is sitting right around 10, and GoT's best night was an 8.9. Best. It averages around 6-7.

(FWIW, TWD is averaging around 7.5 this season, so it's way down).

That's what matters.

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Here's the thing though: LOST was the show that got the ball rolling on serialized dramas. No way would TWD or GoT exist without LOST flearing the path for them. Serialized dramas were frowned upon until LOST entered the fray. Yeah the Sopranos was up there as well, and I also think it will be remembered 30 years from now. LOST was the show though that convinced executives that viewers wanted complex narratives and characters. The television landscape would probably be for the worse now if LOST never came to fruition.

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This isn't the discussion though. If we're talking legacy, this will matter less and less over time as serialized shows become more and more abundant. It will be that trivia question about the first time a man and wife were in bed in television for the first time?

I mean, no one watches Mary Kay and Johnny anymore, but that was a first. Arguably, Lost will have a better legacy, but it's never going to be Star Trek/X-Files/Twilight Zone/etc.

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Also this board has a LOST thread of someone discovering it every other week. I think it is aging fairly well so far.

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Not that often. We had two fairly recently, but not many before that.

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I mean I think that each have produced 3 Top 100 Episodes of all time (in chronological order):

LOST:
1) The Pilot
2) Through the Looking Glass (Season 3 Finale)
3) The Constant

Game of Thrones:
1) Blackwater
2) The Battle of the Bastards
3) The Winds of Winter

As far as I'm aware, TWD has not produced episodes close to this quality.

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So you think your Top 100 episode list will have an effect on the legacy of these shows? Come on, that doesn't mean jack or squat.

I have no doubt that one or two Lost episodes will retain that kind status, Maybe one or two GoT's as well, but those are circle jerks for nerds like us, they don't determine real, rerun type legacy. We are still getting X-Files reruns and Star Trek reruns, and Twilight Zone reruns. Think about that.

I think the issue is, People who really like Game of Thrones REALLY like Game of Thrones, again, look at all of the responses when someone questions it. It's like you can't question it. You aren't allowed to. There's a GoT bubble that apparently people can't see around. It's a pretty good show, by no means is it more popular than TWD (or Lost), and I think the only way it gets to be more popular over time is if HBO loosens up on its policies a bit.

The more we start subscription streaming, the more they will have to adapt. In 10 years, if it isn't available to watch in multiple locations that aren't HBO, people won't have access to it.