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Which AR caliber for deer hunting
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:41 pm
Was going to let my 5 year old try to kill his first deer this year. Was shooting an AR 15, but he's not consistent enough yet. Gonna wait another year.
So the problem is this. I don't like ARs. At least I haven't liked them, but the adjustability is perfect for young shooters. I'm thinking about building him one in either a 6.8 spc or 6.5 Grendel. Looking for opinions on barrel length, caliber, etc.......
Leaning 6.8 with 20-22 Lilja barrel
So the problem is this. I don't like ARs. At least I haven't liked them, but the adjustability is perfect for young shooters. I'm thinking about building him one in either a 6.8 spc or 6.5 Grendel. Looking for opinions on barrel length, caliber, etc.......
Leaning 6.8 with 20-22 Lilja barrel
Posted on 11/1/16 at 8:46 pm to INFIDEL
6.5 Creedmore too
Least I was looking into one before I decided on the cheaper AR-10 in 308
Least I was looking into one before I decided on the cheaper AR-10 in 308
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:01 pm to INFIDEL
Ever considered a 300 blackout? Excellent rifle for deer or piggies.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:13 pm to INFIDEL
Infidel,
I'm not a player in the AR game, but I've killed my fair share of deer w/ specialty handguns that gives me some insight. If the 6.5 Grendel doable in the AR 15 platform, I think it would make for a fine whitetail deer hunting gun. I've killed close to 30 head of big game w/ a T/C Contender using a 14" barrel chambered in 6.5 JDJ. My favorite load for the gun used a 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet at a muzzle velocity of approx 2450 fps; my most distant kill was 325 yards (although I hit a little back in the paunch and had to make a second shot at 175 yds). 6.5 mm bullets have a well deserved reputation as being very deadly on big game. It looks like similar loads are available for the 6.5 Grendel.
Another good gun would be the 300 Blackout/300 Whisper (or what I have, a 300/221). All these are ballistic twins. My 12" barreled Contender has killed 3 deer, the max distance being 200 yards. A 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip at 2200-2300 fps muzzle velocity is a very good deer killer and has negligible recoil. When my son started deer hunting, I set up a Contender carbine barrel for him in 300/221.
I'm sure you'll have lots of good recommendations, but either of the two aforementioned rounds would serve you and your son well.
I'm not a player in the AR game, but I've killed my fair share of deer w/ specialty handguns that gives me some insight. If the 6.5 Grendel doable in the AR 15 platform, I think it would make for a fine whitetail deer hunting gun. I've killed close to 30 head of big game w/ a T/C Contender using a 14" barrel chambered in 6.5 JDJ. My favorite load for the gun used a 120 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet at a muzzle velocity of approx 2450 fps; my most distant kill was 325 yards (although I hit a little back in the paunch and had to make a second shot at 175 yds). 6.5 mm bullets have a well deserved reputation as being very deadly on big game. It looks like similar loads are available for the 6.5 Grendel.
Another good gun would be the 300 Blackout/300 Whisper (or what I have, a 300/221). All these are ballistic twins. My 12" barreled Contender has killed 3 deer, the max distance being 200 yards. A 125 gr Nosler Ballistic Tip at 2200-2300 fps muzzle velocity is a very good deer killer and has negligible recoil. When my son started deer hunting, I set up a Contender carbine barrel for him in 300/221.
I'm sure you'll have lots of good recommendations, but either of the two aforementioned rounds would serve you and your son well.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:17 pm to INFIDEL
How did this get a down vote? Lol
Posted on 11/1/16 at 9:34 pm to INFIDEL
5.56
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:38 pm to INFIDEL
.308
They are relatively cheap and get the job done.
Is it legal to hunt deer in 5.56?
It works.
They are relatively cheap and get the job done.
Is it legal to hunt deer in 5.56?
It works.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 6:58 am to INFIDEL
7.62 x 39 is good out to about 200 yards for deer and pigs....kids in our camp have killed multiple deer with it
Posted on 11/2/16 at 8:56 am to INFIDEL
6.8spc - I like rock river arms, 120gr Hornady SST - excellent combination at least for me.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 9:19 am to INFIDEL
.300 Blackout- 110 gr Barnes.
I bought it on a whim a few years ago for shits and grins- my little boy was 6 at the time.
I soon realized that he could handle the AR platform effectively because of the collapsible stock and low recoil. By 7 years old, he was decent enough on the bench that I thought he could hunt with it.
The stock mil-spec trigger was too heavy and creepy for a child, so I put a Timney drop-in in ours- other than that it's a totally stock M&P 15 with a 16" barrel.
He took his first deer with it on January 8th of this year and dropped her dead at the feeder- I believe the fit of the rifle, with a good trigger, short barrel for ease of handling, all contributed to him being able to make a good shot.
Yes, the .300 has limitations at range- but when is a kid really going to take a deer at greater than 150 yards anyway? His shot was 125, and I'm not comfortable with him going much longer than that.
Last week, I shot the gun off of sandbags with the above mentioned ammunition and pulled a 5/8" 3 shot group at 100 yards- I really believe in the round and the gun.
I bought it on a whim a few years ago for shits and grins- my little boy was 6 at the time.
I soon realized that he could handle the AR platform effectively because of the collapsible stock and low recoil. By 7 years old, he was decent enough on the bench that I thought he could hunt with it.
The stock mil-spec trigger was too heavy and creepy for a child, so I put a Timney drop-in in ours- other than that it's a totally stock M&P 15 with a 16" barrel.
He took his first deer with it on January 8th of this year and dropped her dead at the feeder- I believe the fit of the rifle, with a good trigger, short barrel for ease of handling, all contributed to him being able to make a good shot.
Yes, the .300 has limitations at range- but when is a kid really going to take a deer at greater than 150 yards anyway? His shot was 125, and I'm not comfortable with him going much longer than that.
Last week, I shot the gun off of sandbags with the above mentioned ammunition and pulled a 5/8" 3 shot group at 100 yards- I really believe in the round and the gun.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 7:32 am to INFIDEL
5.56
Without being technical I'd say 308. i can convert, though.
Without being technical I'd say 308. i can convert, though.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 7:42 am
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