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re: Common Bama myths seen on TR
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:01 pm to Eli Goldfinger
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:01 pm to Eli Goldfinger
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1. Bama will load the box to stop the run...
This is the biggest myth and all that needs to be talked about honestly. Bama hasn't needed to stack the box. They're front 7 has dominated LSU's o-line the past few games.
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:23 pm to MightyYat
The fact that a safety runs straight into the box right before the snap says otherwise.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:28 pm to MightyYat
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This is the biggest myth and all that needs to be talked about honestly. Bama hasn't needed to stack the box. They're front 7 has dominated LSU's o-line the past few games.
Bama has stacked the box due to the personnel LSU has had on the field in situations. They don't need to stack the box, but LSU invited it.
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LSU invited a stacked box here by lining up with just one wide out but two tight ends and a fullback. They pitched the ball to Fournette expecting to open up the kind of holes they have much of the year, but this proved to be a different task altogether against Alabama. You can see here lineback Dillon Lee (No. 25) is destroying the lead block in the hole, forcing Fournette wide and sideways where the pursuit from (among others) Shaun Dion Hamilton (No. 20) can box him in and take him down. He gains two ards on this play, both of which he earned through contact in the tackle.
But yea, they've absolutely dominated the point of attack
Routinely had 7 to 8 guys and forced LF7 to go east and west
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:52 pm to MightyYat
Agreed.
Even if Bama 'stacks the box' Saban doesn't like to do it pre-snap, which is technically not loading the box anyway.
One of the items his defenses are predicated on is deceiving you in the form of not knowing how many to bring to the point of attack. With a traditional loading of the box you know that somewhat. Why give that away if you have the athletes to basically do the same thing just after snap. Again, even if he wants to do it at all.
So, IF he wants to do his version of loading the box, at the snap a S will go to a spot in the box before even diagnosing (that's his job that play). That's why you hear him preach follow your assignments. When they do such things if one player does his job but another decides he knows better, you're likely to find 2 people not in position to make a play.
Even if Bama 'stacks the box' Saban doesn't like to do it pre-snap, which is technically not loading the box anyway.
One of the items his defenses are predicated on is deceiving you in the form of not knowing how many to bring to the point of attack. With a traditional loading of the box you know that somewhat. Why give that away if you have the athletes to basically do the same thing just after snap. Again, even if he wants to do it at all.
So, IF he wants to do his version of loading the box, at the snap a S will go to a spot in the box before even diagnosing (that's his job that play). That's why you hear him preach follow your assignments. When they do such things if one player does his job but another decides he knows better, you're likely to find 2 people not in position to make a play.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 5:30 pm to MightyYat
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quote: 1. Bama will load the box to stop the run... This is the biggest myth and all that needs to be talked about honestly. Bama hasn't needed to stack the box. They're front 7 has dominated LSU's o-line the past few games.
Yep. The job that the bama db's did at stopping the run was as impressive as I've seen. I thought a few licks they put on LF changed the way he ran the rest of the season. They totally sold out a couple times and just basically sacrificed their bodies. Ferocious hits. I can't recall if it was their nickel or safety that shot in a couple times and rocked him but it set the tone of he game. Running the ball against Bama is not about LF. It's about everyone else on offense doing their job with attitude. I think we will be more prepared for this mentally
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:51 pm to MightyYat
If they are using 7 to stop the run, then the opportunity is for passes to the vacated lb zones. We have been unable to do that for years including mett whose strength was deeper, 15-25 yds.
They have been able to play run and let us pass, which we have not been able or unwilling to do . Make 5-8 yd passes, a screen, throw to rb's and then they cannot just think run.
That is the key, which by the way is exactly how Saban coaches now and when he was at LSU
They have been able to play run and let us pass, which we have not been able or unwilling to do . Make 5-8 yd passes, a screen, throw to rb's and then they cannot just think run.
That is the key, which by the way is exactly how Saban coaches now and when he was at LSU
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