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re: Any Military Officers here?

Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:30 am to
Posted by TejasPete
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/25/16 at 6:30 am to
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Well. Just the nightmare that is current sexually harassment policy alone is enough reason to avoid the military like the plague


I'm curious as to why you think this? I've been mostly joking in this thread but on a serious note the Army is a great career.

While the sexual harassment training / emphasis may seem excessive, it's also important in an integrated force that we stamp out that behavior at it's root. Nothing wrong with treating each other with dignity and respect.

I definitely don't see it as a reason to not join the military.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 9:12 pm to
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While the sexual harassment training / emphasis may seem excessive, it's also important in an integrated force that we stamp out that behavior at it's root. Nothing wrong with treating each other with dignity and respect.

Unfortunately, the policy as set up is very much a guilty until proven innocent proposition.

Moreover, they've defined sexually harassment in an absurdly expansive manner.

And. When males started fighting and winning because so many cases were bull shite, the Army scammed that too. They just stopped even trying to give Article 15s and instead went with GOMARs. Theoretically, a GOMAR isn't punishment, so, there's no REAL appeal and no right to confront evidence.

Aha. But the Army THEN instituted policy whereby a GOMAR in your records put you in line to be booted out, refused reenlistment, etc etc.

Basically. They figured out how to frick to and you can't even defend yourself.

I have two very good friends who got completely railroaded with this.

The officers aren't stupid. They err on the side of career preservation. They'll never get in trouble for over zealously recommending GOMAR but they'll get crucified if they don't act on a shaky case and later, the perp strikes again.

If you get accused and can't prove you were on a different state when it happened, sorry sucker.

And let's not even get into the ridiculous "it's rape if she said yes but was drinking" stupidity.

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