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re: Ammo, politics, and stocking up
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:30 am to Scoob
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:30 am to Scoob
quote:
Might there be some move to limit total amounts owned
What's the enforcement mechanism?
I would say that a 4-year supply looks to be arbitrary call. Either ammunition availability will remain roughly the same or the rights will be further eroded, likely never to return.
Not to be melancholy, but we are on a downslope away from liberty in this area - the left has done a good job of demonizing guns, ammunition and gun owners. Outside of the south and fewer and fewer Western enclaves, gun "rights" have been replaced largely be either a notion of prohibition or, at best, extreme privilege.
Posted on 10/18/16 at 8:46 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Drag the wife and kids of the first dude in the neighborhood that resists into the street and shoot them. I'd bet guns and ammo would magically appear on the curbside post-haste.
What's the enforcement mechanism?
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:19 am to Ace Midnight
Thanks for the reponses so far, everyone.
Just to be clear, I haven't suddenly decided to change from 1 box of ammo, to buying up a couple of pallets. My situation is changing a little, and I had to adjust my stock of things anyway:
I've encouraged and educated my son about small arms, and it's taken hold. A few years back I'd ask him if he wants to go to the range, now he's asking me if I do. So, a "goodly supply" of practice ammo is now double what I kept, say, 5-6 years ago. And I think that's a good thing.
I've been more of a handgun guy, he's actually a big fan of old rifles. I think this is good too, as I learned on rifles- learn to aim and control breathing, control your eyesight, better initial groups to encourage you to keep on... spraying a 1911 for 10 inch groups when dad is hitting 2 inches can be a bummer, but getting 1 inch groups with a Mauser is satisfying. That's what got him enthused about shooting, and he's kept the love of the rifle even as he's gotten better with pistols.
But- more calibers, more expensive per round, harder to find locally. Yes, we do have a couple 22's to scratch the itch, but it's fun to shoot big centerfire cartridges; and we went through the 22 shortage too.
Those who think "same ol same ol", I'm real hesitant to agree there. The Clintons, Hillary in particular, have been more than just talk when it comes to guns. Ask Smith & Wesson about the Hillary Hole. Regardless of any other policy issue or any other candidate's positions, I think it's pretty fair to say she is and has been an "anti-gun nut".
If you want to go outside politics and into theory, I really believe she thinks the answer to gun violence is to completely remove access, and wait until existing supplies of ammo run out; playing the long game. And frankly, it would work; it would screw us gun owners too, but I don't think she cares about that.
Just to be clear, I haven't suddenly decided to change from 1 box of ammo, to buying up a couple of pallets. My situation is changing a little, and I had to adjust my stock of things anyway:
I've encouraged and educated my son about small arms, and it's taken hold. A few years back I'd ask him if he wants to go to the range, now he's asking me if I do. So, a "goodly supply" of practice ammo is now double what I kept, say, 5-6 years ago. And I think that's a good thing.
I've been more of a handgun guy, he's actually a big fan of old rifles. I think this is good too, as I learned on rifles- learn to aim and control breathing, control your eyesight, better initial groups to encourage you to keep on... spraying a 1911 for 10 inch groups when dad is hitting 2 inches can be a bummer, but getting 1 inch groups with a Mauser is satisfying. That's what got him enthused about shooting, and he's kept the love of the rifle even as he's gotten better with pistols.
But- more calibers, more expensive per round, harder to find locally. Yes, we do have a couple 22's to scratch the itch, but it's fun to shoot big centerfire cartridges; and we went through the 22 shortage too.
Those who think "same ol same ol", I'm real hesitant to agree there. The Clintons, Hillary in particular, have been more than just talk when it comes to guns. Ask Smith & Wesson about the Hillary Hole. Regardless of any other policy issue or any other candidate's positions, I think it's pretty fair to say she is and has been an "anti-gun nut".
If you want to go outside politics and into theory, I really believe she thinks the answer to gun violence is to completely remove access, and wait until existing supplies of ammo run out; playing the long game. And frankly, it would work; it would screw us gun owners too, but I don't think she cares about that.
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