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re: Final Miles analysis: Pumpers vs Negatigers

Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18977 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 5:59 pm to
The NEGATIGERS started seriously calling for the firing of Les Miles after the Tennessee game in 2005. I remember it well. Les went on to win one national title, and many people would say two. The NEGATIGERS were definitely WRONG!!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33751 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:06 pm to
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The NEGATIGERS started seriously calling for the firing of Les Miles after the Tennessee game in 2005. I remember it well. Les went on to win one national title, and many people would say two. The NEGATIGERS were definitely WRONG!!


I allowed for that in my argument. I don't agree that falling backwards into the only 2-loss title run in history constitutes "negatigers were definitely wrong". The argument is not that Les was 100% incompetent and deserves zero credit. To the contrary - he was an amiable ambassador for the Program and the School with a lot of positive accomplishments.

But the same Positigers who were happy to promote the idea that Saban wasn't very good because Miles had early success against him (even as Saban was only rebuilding the program at Bama) are the same Positigers who were unwilling to admit that Saban had effectively exposed all the terminal weaknesses of Miles' approach. Can't have it both ways.
Posted by LATigerBoss
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2016
93 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:06 pm to
No you're wrong. Triple over time losses to two SEC spares - Arky and KY. Alabama fumbling the ball and LSU running it in for the winning score with only seconds to go in the game... Les got VERY lucky his entire career at LSU and with a Pitt victory over WVA, if it weren't for that LSU would have been in the Capital One bowl again. Les lead LSU football down a slow circling drain.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67602 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:08 pm to
Who says 2 national titles?

We can't be proven right but only absolute morons would think we got the most out of our talent over last 5 years
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33751 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:10 pm to
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Les went on to win one national title, and many people would say two.


wut
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:16 pm to
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Les went on to win one national title, and many people would say two.


You just had to go and frick up the post with this. No one counts 2011 as "ANOTHER NC FOR MILES". Not even me and i sleep with a lock of miles' hair.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:18 pm to
The Tennessee game in '05 was game 2 of his LSU tenure and post-Katrina. The team ran out of gas and got beat. How that represents him as a coach is beyond me. '05 showed me that LSU had probably found the second diamond in the rough.

Things went well after that, IMO, until Perrilloux got kicked off the team and '08 happened.

Let'a not forget that game 4 of Saban'a first season was a home loss to UAB. Granted, we sucked hard in '99, but UAB?!? Also, don't forget his first season at Bama - lost to ULM.

The real answer is Ole Miss '09. That is the first time he really came into serious question on a large scale. There were hints before this, but that game was the beginning of the end.

There have been some good and great points along the way. The '11 season was as awesome a season as any until 1/9/12.

In the end, 5 in a row to Saban finished him IMO.

Saban is a once in a generation coach. Miles was competing against his ghost initially and then directly.

Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
28922 posts
Posted on 9/26/16 at 6:25 pm to
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The NEGATIGERS started seriously calling for the firing of Les Miles after the Tennessee game in 2005. I remember it well. Les went on to win one national title, and many people would say two. The NEGATIGERS were definitely WRO


Actually no one would say he went on to win two. He lost one in a season that could have cemented LSU as one of the best teams of all time. And lost it in embarrassing fashion at that
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