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re: Les Miles-Lloyd Carr Comparison
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:25 am to 1999
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:25 am to 1999
[quoteS]ee it goes both ways. Fear of a potential bad hire is no reason not to make a move.[/quote]
It does go both ways, but more often than not, it doesn't work out well. Still no reason not to make a move IMO. But the pitfalls are there. Look at all these long tenured coaches:
Look at UTenn after Fulmer, UF after Spurrier, UTex after Brown, UM after Carr, ND after Holtz, Nebraska, Penn State,
Hell Bama was very spotty for a long long time before Saban. USC struggling to find another Pete Carrol.
FSU is the only one that comes to mind that has been successful so far.
It does go both ways, but more often than not, it doesn't work out well. Still no reason not to make a move IMO. But the pitfalls are there. Look at all these long tenured coaches:
Look at UTenn after Fulmer, UF after Spurrier, UTex after Brown, UM after Carr, ND after Holtz, Nebraska, Penn State,
Hell Bama was very spotty for a long long time before Saban. USC struggling to find another Pete Carrol.
FSU is the only one that comes to mind that has been successful so far.
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:52 am to TopWaterTiger
Supposedly Les banged Carrs wife and there's still bad blood between the two.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:09 am to TopWaterTiger
quote:Suffered from decline in recruiting similar to Nebraska. Do you think Tenn would be better with fuller still there?
UTenn after Fulmer,
quote:Spurrier left to go to the NFL. They did just fine when they got a good coach.
UF after Spurrier
quote:Many of the problems at these schools were due to having coaches stay too long and run the program into the ground. It is taking a while for strong and harbaugh to right the ship.
UTex after Brown, UM after Carr
quote:Both of these situations are the direct result of sanctions. Bama seems to have recovered well. USC just got back to a full scholarship level. Give them a few years.
Bama was very spotty for a long long time before Saban. USC struggling to find another Pete Carrol.
quote:They, like LSU, have always had great recruiting and talent. You just need a good coach to unlock the potential.
FSU is the only one that comes to mind that has been successful so far.
You have to be able to recruit and coach to win in CFB. Teams that are good have one or the other. Great teams have both.
From the schools you mentioned, UF, Tx, UM, ND, Bama, USC, and FSU can get the talent through branding. And when they get good coaching, they go to and/or win championships. LSU should fit with the group. They are just missing the players or the coaching. I'll let you decide which one it is.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:10 am to TopWaterTiger
Notre Damn played for a national championship a few years ago.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:34 pm to TopWaterTiger
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more often than not, it doesn't work out well.
bullshite.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 1:44 pm to TopWaterTiger
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UF after Spurrier,
Won more national titles in the seven years after he left than they did in the 12 years he was there.
quote:
Penn State
Holy shite. Are you seriously blaming Penn State's problems on FIRING Paterno? Tell me you're trolling with this bullshite.
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UTenn after Fulmer, UTex after Brown, UM after Carr, Nebraska, Penn State,
Hell Bama was very spotty for a long long time before Saban.
How do you think all those teams would have fared if they had kept the coaches they fired?
You think Fulmer was going to turn things around at Tennessee? They were going downhill in a hurry. Kiffin might have turned things around, but bolted and the timing forced them to settle on Dooley. Their problems had nothing to do with firing Fulmer.
Texas struggled in the last few years under Brown and would have continued to do so if he had stayed. Right now, they'd be about the same as they are or even worse if he were still there.
Michigan was never going to win another NC under Carr and Ohio State was going to keep dominating them. RichRod seemed like a good answer, but wasn't. Harbaugh is.
Nebraska is in a completely different situation to LSU, so it's silly even to bring them into the conversation.
Bama was spotty before Saban, so does that mean they should have kept Dubose? Price? Shula?
Firing a coach is almost NEVER harmful to a program. Mistakes in hiring his replacement is what harms a program. Even that, however, is minor damage compared to keeping the coach that got fired and letting him continue to run the program into the ground.
Is there anybody on the planet who thinks it was a bad idea for LSU to fire Mike Archer? Even though his replacement did worse than he did, I doubt anyone with a brain would think we should have kept Archer.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 1:47 pm
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