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What I find hilarious is that the same people who argue we disrespect the National Anthem and the Flag, are the same people who didn't want to bring down the symbol of the confederate flag. THE DIRECT OPPOSITION TO EVERYTHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AMERICAN. The unity and pride shown was not to your fellow man of darker complexion under the current symbol, but unity and pride under the archaic symbol that helped to prolong, if only shortly, the oppression of my people.

Do you realize the national anthem is edited, we only sing the first verse. We don't include its outlook on slaves who wanted so badly to be free they fled. That mindset that we were wrong, traitorous for fleeing and joining the British if promised freedom, rather that to be owned, beaten, killed, made to work for profit never seen.

Was with you up to here.

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Yes, we were so disloyal and unappreciative for wanting freedom and to be treated as an equal rather than less than those who owned us.

How are all US citizens not given the same opportunities? Does poverty play a role? Yes, but that effects all at specific poverty levels not just minorities.

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Wow, nothing in that says that the mindset that still exists among many white people, NOT ALL, is similar if not the same arse during or before the Civil Rights Movement or even Civil War

How the frick can you type that? are you that inept that you actually think this argument is anywhere near valid? If many white people shared any beliefs anywhere close to the 19 or 1860's there would not be a two term black president. It goes beyond that, but you insinuate that MANY (your words) are still racist, when it should be a few. If many still felt the way you claim then Obama would not have won the popular vote and electoral college twice.

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ALL of US having the exact same opportunities as ALL of YOU.

This is completely asinine. What opportunities are not afforded all US citizens based on the color of their skin? Please provide a valid argument here. If you want to get in an education argument, then explain to me how those schools are funded and why property taxes are generally lower with higher federal and state subsidies and why the return on federal and state dollars in the context of grades pales in the schools you will point to when compared to schools with opposing demographics.

Stop being vague and pointing to most people of a certain melanin count as being your frickin enemy. My word. For fricks sake make an actual argument without going on a bigoted tangent attacking people of a certain race. Think about your argument and how you might possibly be stretching truth and facts to push a slanted agenda. This is why positive talks fail to exist in so many instances. Once you make the accusation that minorities have no opportunities in America and all white people do, and that most white people are racist, you have lost your audience. You may as well get an alter account now because your opinion from now on will be discredited because of how asinine your WOW! points were.

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Posted by Goyas

Member since Aug 2016

180 posts

Posted on 9/12/16 at 9:18 am to AwesomeSauce

Honestly we are vague because we could write a dissertion on the various ways POC in particular blacks have been and continue to be disenfranchised, even under the guise of equality.

You're smart enough to look up these historical, present and empirical facts/stats yourself. Your argument is just a counter for it because you don't care and are comfortable with laws saying everything is a okay.

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Posted by LABred08

Dallas, Tx

Member since Feb 2011

415 posts

Posted on 9/12/16 at 12:14 pm to AwesomeSauce

First of all, please don't try to use Barack Obama as an excuse why Black people have finally been accepted and assimilated. If that's the the case it still took wayyyy too long, but that is the argument that is asinine. Barack Obama was elected President because he was the best of the worst. Let's be honest, in 2008, there was no way any Republican would win office after the Bush Administration. The new generation of voters, reviled everything that party stood for at the time. It's balancing out now, but it was nowhere near close then, and Democrats, as progressive as they try to portray themselves to be, could not fathom a female president at that time. I was on LSU's campus the night Obama was elected President and as a Black man, we were not welcomed or felt a new dawn had come, but felt like the Old South was bound to rise again any day now. There was plenty of talk about how he should be hung, so don't act like he's the measuring stick for our cultural acceptance.

How about I work everyday in a public service job, being called the n word daily, by the same people I'm trying to help. I'm helping you but I'm less than you. How about being called the n word by a 3 or 4 year old little white girl. She wasn't just repeating, but was taught to understand what the word meant, and when to use it, again in a situation where I'm working as a teacher's helper to further kids. In a place where, most of the kids were white but most of the staff was black, who else was that guided toward? How about having no criminal record, a great gpa, good job experience and no negative remarks from any former employers, but not being hired to jobs and then testing the theory that it was because I was black and changing my race on the application from Black to Decide Not to Answer and getting calls to the same places, who wouldn't call when I stated my race.

I'm still young and yet, I'm discriminated all the time, what's sad is, I got to a point where I believed that was ok, it was normal, cause that's just the world I live in, but why? If the nation I live in says I should not have to go through that? Why not say anything? Why not stand against it?

I never said all white people are racist, that's very untrue, I'm also not of the belief that all black people aren't racist. But if I'm skeptical of a white man, based on history, I have every reason to be? What exactly is any white man's reasoning based on history, to hate or despise a black man? What was it then and what is it now?

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