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re: Brock Turner (Stanford Rapist) to be released from jail this Friday
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:03 pm to tiderider
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:03 pm to tiderider
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women should be allowed the expectation that they will not be raped because they are drunk or wearing a short skirt or look pretty ... really isn't that difficult to understand
Oh, I agree completely.
Unfortunately, "should be" doesn't remove the reality of the situation. The world is not a perfect place, for that reason we (and her by extension) need to exercise good judgement.
It's simple. If I was to use the situation to describe some moral lesson to someone; it would be.
"Do not rape or sexually assault someone and do not place yourself in an avoidable and vulnerable situation where you are at risk of being raped or sexually assaulted."
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... being drunk/passed out is not a green light for rape ... under any circumstances ...
Does it validate rape? No.
Is it a green light for rape? For a rapist? It probably is.
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:08 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:I'm no law guru, but I doubt you can formally charge someone of a crime without any evidence, so it's a safe assumption that the answer to your question is yes.
Was there any evidence of rape under California law?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:09 pm to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:If you're a terrible parent, of course you would.
Would you tell her what a dumbass she was for passing out drunk behind a dumpster afterwards?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:09 pm to DanMullins4Life
quote:You think the father needs to tell her that for her to understand, or perhaps you think she probably learned that lesson already?
The girl exercised very poor judgement. Those are simply the facts of the situation. She doesn't get a free pass on her incompetence because she was a victim of an avoidable situation.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:10 pm to bmy
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That's absurd and it's why few to no people respect lawyers
Lawyers don't make the laws.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:11 pm to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:I'm sure you'd have little pity if it were your wife, mother or daughter, right?
I just have little pity for someone who makes terrible decisions and puts themselves in these types of situations.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:14 pm to shel311
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Would you tell her what a dumbass she was for passing out drunk behind a dumpster afterwards?
If you're a terrible parent, of course you would.
WTF are you talking about?!
I have a daughter and for frick's sake I'm definitely teaching her the dangers of getting black-out drunk in public.
I guess I'd be a better parent if I told her "do whatever the frick you want. There 'should' be no consequences according to shell's ideal world"
No thanks. I'll teach my child about the world.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:15 pm to LesMiles BFF
quote:So you're on record as saying if this happened to your daughter, you'd tell her what a dumbass she was for passing out drunk?
WTF are you talking about?! I have a daughter and for frick's sake I'm definitely teaching her the dangers of getting black-out drunk in public. I guess I'd be a better parent if I told her "do whatever the frick you want. There 'should' be no consequences according to shell's ideal world" No thanks. I'll teach my child about the world.
Nice!
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:18 pm to shel311
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So you're on record as saying if this happened to your daughter, you'd tell her what a dumbass she was for passing out drunk?
I'm pretty sure that he's on record for saying that he would try to teach his daughter how to avoid problematic situations.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:19 pm to NYCAuburn
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again, max sentence. Usually max sentence for simple weed possession is 1 year, do you agree with that?
No I don't , but I don't think it should be 3 days either. That is the equivalent if we are comparing. Plus I think violent crimes should be dealt with more harshly.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:20 pm to NYCAuburn
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and you are blaming her, again, just like people blame the actual gun for murders.
Actual if they blamed his dick it would be the same. Blaming her would be the same as blaming the murder victims.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:21 pm to shel311
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I'm no law guru, but I doubt you can formally charge someone of a crime without any evidence, so it's a safe assumption that the answer to your question is yes.
Actually you can be charged with anything the cops want to charge you with. The DA decides if the charges are valid.
You are right in one instance. You are no guru.
Go to another thread
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:21 pm to DanMullins4Life
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I'm pretty sure that he's on record for saying that he would try to teach his daughter how to avoid problematic situations.
How by having her raped when she gets herself in a problematic situation??
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:23 pm to LesMiles BFF
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I guess I'd be a better parent if I told her "do whatever the frick you want. There 'should' be no consequences according to shell's ideal world"
In what world is rape the acceptable consequence?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:23 pm to DanMullins4Life
quote:So why'd he say "WTF are you talking about" to my statement if he would NOT say that to his daughter?
I'm pretty sure that he's on record for saying that he would try to teach his daughter how to avoid problematic situations.
Read the posts/quotes, there's no other insinuation for me to make.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:24 pm to LesMiles BFF
quote:Cops can charge someone with a crime?
Actually you can be charged with anything the cops want to charge you with
quote:Easy there
You are right in one instance. You are no guru.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:25 pm to shel311
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So you're on record as saying if this happened to your daughter, you'd tell her what a dumbass she was for passing out drunk
Yeah, because that's how I talk to my family; like an a-hole.
There are learning moments in life and you can let them go or not.
I'm sure in your imagination I'm sitting there yelling at my freshly raped daughter just yelling at her "you stupid bitch!" But in reality, as a dad, I would love her enough to accept her and her mistakes while also trying to make sure MY DAUGHTER ISNT RAPED AGAIN YOU RETARD.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:26 pm to ssgtiger
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In what world is rape the acceptable consequence
Why did you add "acceptable" to my statement?
Do you think I believe that?
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:27 pm to LesMiles BFF
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I would love her enough to accept her and her mistakes
Wow!! Dad of the year here.
I mean you deserve an award for still accepting your daughter after being raped.
You just would have no pity for her, because ultimately it was her fault.
Posted on 8/31/16 at 12:27 pm to LesMiles BFF
quote:So you agree with me, so why'd you say, "WTF are you talking about" if you knew exactly what I was talking about?
Yeah, because that's how I talk to my family; like an a-hole
quote:So you would NOT call her a dumbass? Reading comprehension has failed you, prayers sent.
I'm sure in your imagination I'm sitting there yelling at my freshly raped daughter just yelling at her "you stupid bitch!" But in reality, as a dad, I would love her enough to accept her and her mistakes while also trying to make sure MY DAUGHTER ISNT RAPED AGAIN YOU RETARD.
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