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Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:38 am to Peazey
quote:and lives ruined.
innocent people who were killed.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:38 am to Peazey
I am currently two seasons into my re-watch and while it is not a death, I find it uncomfortable to watch the bartender at the Bada-Bing constantly take a beating whenever someone gets pissed.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:43 am to DelU249
you seem kind of emotional and preachy in here. i dont think anyone needs a reminder that people in the mafia, and specifically this show, are the best citizens in their community
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:44 am to DelU249
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she was bad, but things are relative...she didn't deserve to be beaten to death.
I can see how my phrasing was poor on that one. I meant it was a hard scene and death to watch. That was the one that stuck with me the most in demonstrating what monsters the gangsters are. There's a pregnant woman who is beaten to death and all any of the characters care about is that the Bing was disrespected and ralph, a made man, was hit by Tony. A punch was more important than a woman and unborn child's life.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:46 am to Deactived
i'm not preaching, it's what I enjoyed about the show
it would've been so easy to make tony the anti hero, but they didn't. you relate to him, you empathize with him (because at the end of the day, his problems are relatable), but you never root for him or condone him.
but what death bothered me the most? it was honestly the minor and ancillary characters. chase has them there for a reason, so if anyone is preaching it's him.
it would've been so easy to make tony the anti hero, but they didn't. you relate to him, you empathize with him (because at the end of the day, his problems are relatable), but you never root for him or condone him.
but what death bothered me the most? it was honestly the minor and ancillary characters. chase has them there for a reason, so if anyone is preaching it's him.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:50 am to Peazey
paulie's mom's (really aunt) friend that he robs, she catches him and he murders her
another.
the tree trimmer who gets caught up between paulie and what's his face
beansie...he's a criminal, but jesus you feel bad for him.
the green groves owner...and we're not even sure he was yapping, it was just the word of junior
another.
the tree trimmer who gets caught up between paulie and what's his face
beansie...he's a criminal, but jesus you feel bad for him.
the green groves owner...and we're not even sure he was yapping, it was just the word of junior
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:52 am to DelU249
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the waiter paulie and chris murder
I tried but couldn't feel bad for this guy at all. Maybe it wasn't obvious to him that he was waiting on a crew of gangsters, but he interrupts Paulie and Chris when they are in the middle of a heated argument in a dark alley.
You do have a good point with this:
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always the innocent people who were caught in the wake
Even though he didn't die you always felt for the landscaper who gets his arse kicked by Feech, then gets his business cut in half and ordered to cut Tony and Johnny Sac's lawns for free.
Another one I thought of was the dumb kid who tried to drive-by Chris and gets executed by Tony and Pussy. He had it coming but the actual execution scene is fricking terrible.
Chris's writer friend that he executes was a tough one too. Chris tortured that guy for years and winds up taking the bullet because Chris is pissed at Tony for something.
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:54 am to Peazey
quote:
A punch was more important than a woman and unborn child's life.
And they're all good Catholic boys, too.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:56 am to craigbiggio
quote:oh yeah, he was fricked just for knowing chris
Chris's writer friend that he executes was a tough one too. Chris tortured that guy for years and winds up taking the bullet because Chris is pissed at Tony for something.
either he listens and he's killed later for what he knows
OR
he says he doesn't want to know and gets killed for the insult (which is what happens)
Posted on 8/24/16 at 10:59 am to craigbiggio
I guess the most awful is Adriana because these are people she trusted, she was put in an impossible spot first by them, then by the feds
the bruises on her face, the tears, the looks of fear and horror and syl just looks stone cold as he kills someone who is "family"
the bruises on her face, the tears, the looks of fear and horror and syl just looks stone cold as he kills someone who is "family"
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:04 am to DelU249
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the bruises on her face, the tears, the looks of fear and horror and syl just looks stone cold as he kills someone who is "family"
While calling her a count
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:10 am to craigbiggio
and she's crawling away, in like a desperate infantile state (reminds me of the bevalaqua? murder)
awful but i'm being preachy for feeling the emotion that I was meant to feel watching the show.
awful but i'm being preachy for feeling the emotion that I was meant to feel watching the show.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:15 am to DelU249
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but what death bothered me the most? it was honestly the minor and ancillary characters
I agree.
In my mind, if youre in that game(mafia), death is always part of it. I felt bad for some main characters but plenty of them you saw coming.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:23 am to PowerTool
I think they tried to make it easier for you to not like her character by giving her irritable bowel syndrome. Sort taking her sexiness away.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:23 am to DelU249
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he says he doesn't want to know and gets killed for the insult (which is what happens)
Obviously, Tim Daly did a great job as J.T. Dolan - and his death is pretty arbitrary on Christopher's part - I always read that - he was too chickenshit to kill himself or Tony (the folks he was really mad at) so he externalized that to Dolan. No money in it. No reason to protect himself or family business. Dolan was a civilian. Just a bad, bad hit.
Oh, and I stumbled on this:
Alicia Witt (Amy Safir) - one of Spider's Hollywood connections/side pieces?
Was Alia in Lynch's Dune:
Posted on 8/24/16 at 11:24 am to Deactived
it's two fold for sure, the biggest being that they understand what they're getting into.
it's icing on the cake that they just happen to deserve it
and notice it was pussy that tony only ever felt true remorse from killing
tracee is just someone caught in between sylvio and ralph and she's the one who dies. tony feels bad, but he's over it pretty quick, and sylvio only sees the money he lost because he was juicing her (which is awful itself)
I don't think there's a show you could spend more time analyzing than the sopranos. it's really a show about choices though, so it lends itself to moral analysis and chase definitely makes a point of showing that while the giants battle, everyone else feels the consequences.
it's icing on the cake that they just happen to deserve it
and notice it was pussy that tony only ever felt true remorse from killing
tracee is just someone caught in between sylvio and ralph and she's the one who dies. tony feels bad, but he's over it pretty quick, and sylvio only sees the money he lost because he was juicing her (which is awful itself)
I don't think there's a show you could spend more time analyzing than the sopranos. it's really a show about choices though, so it lends itself to moral analysis and chase definitely makes a point of showing that while the giants battle, everyone else feels the consequences.
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