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re: Worst Airport experiences

Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:22 am to
Posted by CuseTiger
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Member since Jul 2013
8267 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 11:22 am to
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Nothing good ever happens at O'hare or Newark.

Between the lovely people of New Jersey and the beautiful weather of the midwest, what's there not to like?

My worst was probably on my trip a few weeks ago to Buffalo. Flew MSY-DCA-ORD-BUF and things were going surprisingly smooth until halfway through the DCA-ORD flight. We were told there was bad weather and we'd have to fly over St. Louis before heading up to Chicago. Of course we landed on the furthest runway away from the terminal, end up taxiing for about 20 minutes and get in a half hour late. My 1 hr connection is now down to 30 minutes so as soon as I get off I had to run from K15 to G14 (for those of you who know O'hare this is quite a hike). Luckily I make it on the buffalo flight and we push from the gate. Start taxiing to the runway and the pilot comes on "Welp folks we're number #40 for takeoff, going to be here a while." As the time passes we get closer and closer to the runway "#20 for departure" then "#10". Finally 1 hr 15 min later we are almost at the runway and the pilot comes on "We're number #4 for takeoff but now we're out of fuel and need to head back to the terminal for some more." Taxi back, the door opens at the gate and they immediately cancel the flight. End up finding a gate agent that confirms me on the next available flight the following morning, but adds me to the next flight's standby list 3 hours later. During this break I wind up sitting down next to a federal judge from Oklahoma and we try to laugh and have a good time at our misfortunes. She had run over crying after the flight was cancelled and got the last confirmed seat while I was stuck on the standby list. New plane comes in an hour late and luckily I clear the standby list and get on. We end up taking off as one of the last flights before a huge line of thunderstorms hit O'Hare preventing departures for 2 hours.
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8804 posts
Posted on 8/10/16 at 12:19 pm to
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CuseTiger


When the weather here in Chicago is bad, all hell breaks loose. The winds are the worst because they will prevent the use of the 5 parallel runways, forcing everything to the north/south diagonals.

But what is just as bad (and what you experienced) is when weather in the area restricts the departure fixes. If there is a storm over one of the main fixes, they have to route the planes over other ones, leading to even more spacing issues. If for example, the Tokyo bound flight needs to cross the airfield after takeoff from Rwy 10L, it basically shuts down any activity on the north half of the airfield until it clears its fix.

As for the far south runway, I was there when they opened 10R, it is only used when landing to the east but the max taxi time from runway end to the farthest UA gates on the north side was modeled at 25 minutes. You have to go around the end of the runways, rather than through them. This is how they keep the runway throughput up. It sucks, but airlines will gladly burn the fuel on a taxi rather than a holding pattern.
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