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153 years ago this exact moment
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:10 pm
What is left of Pickett, Pettigrew and Trimble's boys are hauling arse and/or limping back to the tree line from whence they came less than an hour before. Greeting them is the stubborn Robert E. Lee, repeatedly saying "It is my fault. It is all my fault."
Refusing the advice and suggestion of many of his officers to exploit the union left, the old man decided a head on assault across a mile of wide open wheatfields and pastures was a much wiser decision. When told he must "Look to his division..." After the repulse, General Pickett replied tersely to Lee, "Sir, I have no division."
Aside from some late afternoon cavalry engagements and skirmishing, this foolish assault ended the 3 day struggle in and around the crossroads town in Adams County Pennsylvania known as Gettysburg, giving General George Meade and his Union army their greatest victory so far of the war.
Though the war would continue on for nearly 2 more years, the loss at Gettysburg and the loss of Vicksburg the following day on July 4th would signal what many believed to be the turning point of the war.

Refusing the advice and suggestion of many of his officers to exploit the union left, the old man decided a head on assault across a mile of wide open wheatfields and pastures was a much wiser decision. When told he must "Look to his division..." After the repulse, General Pickett replied tersely to Lee, "Sir, I have no division."
Aside from some late afternoon cavalry engagements and skirmishing, this foolish assault ended the 3 day struggle in and around the crossroads town in Adams County Pennsylvania known as Gettysburg, giving General George Meade and his Union army their greatest victory so far of the war.
Though the war would continue on for nearly 2 more years, the loss at Gettysburg and the loss of Vicksburg the following day on July 4th would signal what many believed to be the turning point of the war.

Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:18 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
Thanks for rubbing it in you goddam soulless Yankee bastard.
Eat a bag of dicks while you're at it.

Eat a bag of dicks while you're at it.

Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:21 pm to soccerfüt
Not rubbing it in. All stated was factual.
Had MANY ancestors on that field representing Georgia, Alabama and Texas.
I will never back down from my opinion that Lee was a stubborn fool and could have easily flanked the entire union army had he acted sooner and on the suggestion of Longstreet, Hood and many others.
People still so salty though. Them downvotes are flyin in my op.

Had MANY ancestors on that field representing Georgia, Alabama and Texas.
I will never back down from my opinion that Lee was a stubborn fool and could have easily flanked the entire union army had he acted sooner and on the suggestion of Longstreet, Hood and many others.
People still so salty though. Them downvotes are flyin in my op.


This post was edited on 7/3/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:24 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
On that same day, Pemberton began discussing the surrender terms of Vicksburg with General Grant.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:25 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
If the South had won we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we have nowadays in this country. Happy 4th of July.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:26 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
How much sooner could he have acted? Jeb Stuart was too busy joyriding in the days leading up to the battle.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:30 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
quote:By posting it here, yes you're attempting to.
Not rubbing it in.
quote:Who challenged its factual nature?
All stated was factual.
Just stahp, no one here cares to be lectured about the South's failure at Gettysburg.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:34 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
Actually, whichever general that Lee ordered to take Culp's Hill on the first day that flat out refused is a big reason the CSA lost that battle.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:40 pm to soccerfüt
quote:
no one here cares to be lectured about the South's failure at Gettysburg
I do. frick the south. Rich men conscripted poor men to fight the federal government for their cotton and slaves.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:42 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Rich men still convince poor men to go fight battles for them today. So it's not like much has changed.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:44 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:
Rich men conscripted poor men to fight the federal government for their cotton and slaves.
North was no better. In fact, there were riots about conscription. It's all about the money.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:51 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
Such a lost fricking opportunity.
Such a waste.
Such a waste.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 1:52 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
Ive never understood why this is left out of discussions on picketts charge, JEB Stuart was sent around to the Union rear and was successful in doing so but was stopped by Custer with a very small force, Stuart did not believe he would attack and did not assume a fighting position but continued in a narrow column making his numerical advantage not an issue, if Stuart attacks from the rear as planned and Pickett reaches the wall as they did the union force would have been at a huge disadvantage, the plan was actually sound, Lee had done bolder actions than this and won.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 2:04 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:
Actually, whichever general that Lee ordered to take Culp's Hill on the first day that flat out refused is a big reason the CSA lost that battle.
Ewell was the General, but he didn't refuse. Lee's orders were to take the hill if deemed practicable. Ewell deemed it was not and he was probably right. By the time he was ready to attack, the Union already had occupied the heights.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 2:13 pm to AU66
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AU66
Only a very small number of North Carolinians and a few Virginians made it to the wall.
The bulk majority were out of the fight before they even reached emmitsburg road which acted as a meat grinder of sorts as union artillery swept down both sides of the line from both flanks.
It was doomed from the start and under no possible scenario could that exact assault have succeeded.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 2:19 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
3000 stampeding horses in a suprise attack from the rear against a thinly held middle could have made a huge difference, your assuming those men would have remained firing at the confederates from the wall which i highly doubt they would have. You tend to turn around when faced with the possibility of a sabre in your back.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 3:03 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
So it's Lee's fault we are stuck with Obama. Damn you Lee.
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:03 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
quote:
Not rubbing it in. All stated was factual.
Had MANY ancestors on that field representing Georgia, Alabama and Texas.
I will never back down from my opinion that Lee was a stubborn fool and could have easily flanked the entire union army had he acted sooner and on the suggestion of Longstreet, Hood and many others.
People still so salty though. Them downvotes are flyin in my op.
You, sir, are no gentleman.
LC
Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:09 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
quote:
If the South had won we wouldn't have a lot of the problems we have nowadays in this country. Happy 4th of July.
Such a moron.

Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:10 pm to JoshuaChamberlain
Think Hillary wins?
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