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re: Cinema attack in Germany - suspect killed
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:40 am to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:40 am to AwesomeSauce
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When analyzing gun violence in the US the homicide rate can be diminished rather quickly by changing a few markers, none of those markers have anything to do with gun control laws either.
Gun control can't have anything to do with self-inflicted gun shots? How do you figure? Also, you're just going to dismiss the fact that even if you take out suicides we still (according to you) have 3x the gun death rate? That's still a huge disparity.
Listen, I'm not saying we should do exactly like the Germans. That would be silly. They are two vastly different countries. But people making these pithy comments about how their gun control laws don't work and any measure of gun control is inherently bad because of this one incident are being disingenuous at the very best.
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Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:42 am to lsu2006
For the record the gun homicide rate in the US is actually closer to 5x that of Germany's based on 2012 and 2014 data. Can't find anything more recently.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:44 am to lsu2006
If someone is going to kill themselves, does it really matter if you take the gun away?
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:46 am to lsu2006
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Listen, I'm not saying we should do exactly like the Germans. That would be silly. They are two vastly different countries. But people making these pithy comments about how their gun control laws don't work and any measure of gun control is inherently bad because of this one incident are being disingenuous at the very best.
Honestly, if they had our demographics, as racist as that sounds, it would be similar IMO.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:50 am to lsu2006
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Listen, I'm not saying we should do exactly like the Germans. That would be silly. They are two vastly different countries. But people making these pithy comments about how their gun control laws don't work and any measure of gun control is inherently bad because of this one incident are being disingenuous at the very best.
So are you though. Really, what do you think would happen? You think people will willingly give up their guns?
We can not compare the US to how shite works in Europe. WW2 changed everything over there. Like social healthcare, they were starting from scratch.
Posted on 6/23/16 at 10:58 am to lsu2006
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Gun control can't have anything to do with self-inflicted gun shots? How do you figure?
I personally believe that a firearm safety class should be required when someone purchases a gun. Accidental shootings are far to common an occurrence and too many do not know how to properly store a firearm.
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Also, you're just going to dismiss the fact that even if you take out suicides we still (according to you) have 3x the gun death rate? That's still a huge disparity.
I agree, but gun control laws don't help this. DC, Detroit, New Orleans, Oakland, Baltimore, Newark, L.A., and Chicago all have stringent gun control laws, yet somehow they account for an overwhelming amount of firearm violence and homicides when accounting for their rates and population.
quote:Agreed.
They are two vastly different countries.
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people making these pithy comments about how their gun control laws don't work and any measure of gun control is inherently bad because of this one incident are being disingenuous at the very best.
As is the argument that semi-automatic rifles are to blame when more Americans are killed by knives than non-handguns.
This post was edited on 6/23/16 at 10:59 am
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