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re: Muhammed Ali Dead at 74
Posted on 6/5/16 at 1:30 am to REG861
Posted on 6/5/16 at 1:30 am to REG861
It's a sad commentary on the state of our country that, with the passing of one of the most iconic sports legends our country has ever produced, some would gleefully flock to a message board to denounce a man most of them had never met, and with such vitriol and ignorance.
First, given the time, no other athlete had ever so boisterously voiced their greatness, and backed it up. He was a dynamic force who was able to back up that self assuredness time and again. To some, that self promoting confidence was a turn off and, to many at the time, that feeds in to the second point.
Ali was NEVER drafted. To paint him as a "draft dodger" is too easy and, frankly asinine, considering the number of "respected" people in politics from both sides who legitimately dodged the draft through various means. Ali took a stand because he felt that if his country could not recognize him as a person, why should he be put in a position to represent his country either through propaganda, which he certainly would have been, or as a fighting man. That was his stance against an injustice of the times that, if you didn't live through it, I don't think you can fully appreciate. By taking that stand, he was stripped of everything and it took a decision of the Supreme Court to have him reinstated as a fighter.
No one can argue that the man created the modern superstar persona. And how many modern superstars would willingly sacrifice everything for a cause they believed in?
Even after his boxing career had passed him by, he continued to contribute to his community and attempt to make a difference in this world.
The man may have had many faults, but this is a huge loss to, not only the sporting world, but to this country. May the man RIP.
First, given the time, no other athlete had ever so boisterously voiced their greatness, and backed it up. He was a dynamic force who was able to back up that self assuredness time and again. To some, that self promoting confidence was a turn off and, to many at the time, that feeds in to the second point.
Ali was NEVER drafted. To paint him as a "draft dodger" is too easy and, frankly asinine, considering the number of "respected" people in politics from both sides who legitimately dodged the draft through various means. Ali took a stand because he felt that if his country could not recognize him as a person, why should he be put in a position to represent his country either through propaganda, which he certainly would have been, or as a fighting man. That was his stance against an injustice of the times that, if you didn't live through it, I don't think you can fully appreciate. By taking that stand, he was stripped of everything and it took a decision of the Supreme Court to have him reinstated as a fighter.
No one can argue that the man created the modern superstar persona. And how many modern superstars would willingly sacrifice everything for a cause they believed in?
Even after his boxing career had passed him by, he continued to contribute to his community and attempt to make a difference in this world.
The man may have had many faults, but this is a huge loss to, not only the sporting world, but to this country. May the man RIP.
Posted on 6/5/16 at 2:35 am to TigerNavyDoc
Very well put
This post was edited on 6/5/16 at 2:36 am
Posted on 6/5/16 at 10:15 am to TigerNavyDoc
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Ali was NEVER drafted. To paint him as a "draft dodger" is too easy and, frankly asinine, considering the number of "respected" people in politics from both sides who legitimately dodged the draft through various means.
Wasn't Ali's IQ too low at first so he wasn't even eligible for the draft but then the IQ standards were lowered to make him eligible?
Posted on 6/5/16 at 11:49 am to TigerNavyDoc
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some would gleefully flock to a message board to denounce a man most of them had never met, and with such vitriol and ignorance.
But to be honest, that is no more ignorant than others who flock to the message boards to announce him as a hero and best thing ever when they have never met him.
You only know what you have read, just like the ones who denounce him
He was a great athlete. Weather he was a great person is not known by a single person here
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:00 pm to TigerNavyDoc
quote:
It's a sad commentary on the state of our country that, with the passing of one of the most iconic sports legends our country has ever produced, some would gleefully flock to a message board to denounce a man most of them had never met, and with such vitriol and ignorance.
Even if you disagree with Ali's stance (though 40 years later, how can you...when nobody does) threads don't need to turn to hatred like Lou Pai, Pai Lou, I don't know, some random guy or whatever his name is as some random poster...did...and attack his legacy by attacking people who supported Ali for what he stood for. Didn't know in this day and age, there were still so many hard hats from the 60's - or pro-Vietnam guys.
Ali was vindicated by history.
Period.
And that might not have been popular among people who think you should blindly do what your government tells you to do...that's a shame. And I understand most couldn't rebel, a lot tried..jail, Canada. Ali was famous enough to be able to conscientiously object but he still paid a price for taking a stand against an immoral war. I wish all the service men had the means and fame to to do likewise.
This post was edited on 6/6/16 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 6/6/16 at 8:13 pm to TigerNavyDoc
That's what you get when you elect a shitass dem like johnson, hope that isn't repeated.
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