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re: Combine Thread
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:22 pm to NOLA Bronco
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:22 pm to NOLA Bronco
I generally agree with you, but if you want, when I get back to a computer, I can find guys that played 3-4 years that were "safe, developed" guys.
They don't call it a crapshoot for nothing. Hield, based on his athleticism and other measurables are close to maxed out. You have to take into account his slow development as well. A 23 year old can and will adjust to the nba game, but history shows us he is pretty close to done developing. He'll no longer be the oldest guy on the court playing with a bunch of kids.
Murray like Hield already has his calling card, and that is his shooting touch. Both will play in the league because of that. You gamble with a guy like Murray hoping he can build on that and become a better player than what Hield is now.
I really do like them both and would be happier with either.
They don't call it a crapshoot for nothing. Hield, based on his athleticism and other measurables are close to maxed out. You have to take into account his slow development as well. A 23 year old can and will adjust to the nba game, but history shows us he is pretty close to done developing. He'll no longer be the oldest guy on the court playing with a bunch of kids.
Murray like Hield already has his calling card, and that is his shooting touch. Both will play in the league because of that. You gamble with a guy like Murray hoping he can build on that and become a better player than what Hield is now.
I really do like them both and would be happier with either.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:36 pm to Lester Earl
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They don't call it a crapshoot for nothing. Hield, based on his athleticism and other measurables are close to maxed out.
Then by this logic Murray's ceiling is below what Hield is at right now. After all, Murray has similar athleticism, a smaller frame and shorter height/wingspan.
But we know that isnt the case. There is no hard and fast rule that a person with X athleticism and height has a hard ceiling. Hield is boringly average in most of his measurables. Murray, slightly below average. Yet the case is being made that the guy with less measurables will develop into a better Buddy Hield?
That is where this logic gets a bit lost on me. It seems to stem solely from the assumption Murray will project out on a similarly strong trajectory and push past Hield over the long term. I'm not convinced because I haven't seen Murray prove he can do that yet. Hield I have. Which is a pretty important component of NBA transition, the ability to improve and round out your game.
History honestly doesnt have a ton of Buddy Hield's to compare him with. Most of these 4 year busts are guys that didn't do what Hield did while still having NBA measurables. Nylon Calculus has done a couple investigations and he seems to be in some interesting, elite company in terms of 2 year plus SG's, but like everything in the lottery, the data also contains a couple less flattering case studies.
This is again, all to say I like both guys and they are much closer to me then apart in terms of my preference.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:40 pm
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