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re: What makes you a science denier?

Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:00 am to
Posted by 911Moto
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:00 am to
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So how anyone can take Genesis as literal when it is clear as day that it is metaphorical is beyond me


Here's the problem with that statement - it is supposed to be "the word of God," not the word of man, so it shouldn't be imperfect. And I would venture to say you only view it as metaphorical because modern science has proven it false - I believe it was taken as literal when written (by man, of course). You say it is metaphorical yet doesn't it give a direct lineage or genealogy from Adam and Eve on down to all the characters that are the basis for the Old Testament?
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:05 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:35 am to
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Here's the problem with that statement - it is supposed to be "the word of God," not the word of man, so it shouldn't be imperfect. And I would venture to say you only view it as metaphorical because modern science has proven it false - I believe it was taken as literal when written (by man, of course). You say it is metaphorical yet doesn't it give a direct lineage or genealogy from Adam and Eve on down to all the characters that are the basis for the Old Testament?


Of course. I agree with you on that fact, because at that time, man did believe that the universe was geocentric.

The fact remains that now, we know, without a doubt, that it is not. Can anyone argue, with facts, that the Sun is revolving around the Earth, and not vice versa?

So yes, it is supposed to be the "Word of God", but I just cannot take that as literal when we have knowledge that some parts of it are not true.

Does anyone believe that the person who transcribed Genesis witnessed the creation of the world? I sure don't. It was given to him from God.

I don't believe that everything in religion is metaphorical, but I'm also not stupid. Luke 1:26 in the New American Bible states that the Angel came to Mary "In the sixth month". Even if you went by the Julian Calendar, that puts the Immaculate Conception in May. There is no way, by that translation (which is what the Catholic Church uses) that Jesus could have been born on December 25th, unless he was born 2 months premature. That holiday was not added until later when the Church wanted to convert nonbelievers by placing the holiday near a pagan holiday.

The ignorance that many anti-religion types point out is a result of believing everything in the Bible is true, and taking some parts of the Bible and not others. While the Bible condemned homosexuality, it did not give any man the right to condemn another because of how they behaved. That judgement is reserved for God. In John 8:7, Jesus tells the Pharisees "Let the one among you who is without sin cast the first stone at her".

If God is real (whether you believe he is or not) Who among us is without sin? Who are we to condemn another for their decision? If God is real, that is his ultimate decision.

The difference between an atheist and a christian is that one will be proven wrong at death. Only at that point will we truly know whether there is an Ultimate Creator or not. I believe in God, but unless something happens in my life to absolutely, beyond a shadow of a doubt, prove that wrong, I will not know until I die whether that belief was placed correctly.
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