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re: Why are there no car companies that make cars that looks as good as expensive...
Posted on 4/7/16 at 2:38 pm to dukke v
Posted on 4/7/16 at 2:38 pm to dukke v
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and then you stomp it and you are 110 in seconds.
Let's not get too carried away here
I'm fairly positive you don't have the turbo version. Kia has definitely done a good job with remaking themselves though. 
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 2:47 pm to PrimeTime Money
I like the Infiniti Q50 and Acura TLX. Neither are very expensive and both look very nice IMO.
Also, the new Cadillac XT5 is a sharp looking ride....although I think the one I want is closer to $50,000. Not that affordable.
Also, the new Cadillac XT5 is a sharp looking ride....although I think the one I want is closer to $50,000. Not that affordable.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 2:50 pm to LNCHBOX
No man. I tried it once and I was shocked it did it. It was quite a rush. I have just the basic model.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:00 pm to dukke v
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Yup. KIA is a vet quality car company. People laughed at me for having two of them but have had great results with both. I have a 2013 optima and zero problems at all. Only has 25,000 on it. Cruising the interstate at about 80 and you barely feel it.and then you stomp it and you are 110 in seconds.
A major recall will be announced tomorrow.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
They do... Have you seen Fords remake of the Aston Martin.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:19 pm to Scooba
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They do... Have you seen Fords remake of the Aston Martin.
Different lighting but just look at the difference in the image clarity in paint reflection and crisp lines and that should give you a very good idea of quality difference.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:22 pm to LNCHBOX
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You're the one that's confused. And I'm not sure how you still are, but it's you. Not us
Do you think aesthetics are the driving force behind the sales of the Camry?
Do you believe the person who views the car's look as the most important feature is buying those vehicles? Serious questions.
Are they buying this car:
or this one:
Someone who is worried about aesthetics is not choosing a Camry over a Fusion, and if you don't believe me, I'll point you to the first line of Car and Driver's write up of each vehicle:
Fusion was the 6th best selling car in 2015 with 255,143 units sold:
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The Fusion blends seductive styling, lively handling, and comprehensive—if sometimes frustrating—tech features.
Meanwhile, the Camry was the #1 selling vehicle with 361,111 units sold:
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For the majority of people for whom a car is merely an appliance, the Camry meets their needs to perfection. Those seeking a zestier ride should look elsewhere.
How you can read that and think that people must like the look of the Camry because it is #1 in sales blows my freaking mind.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:23 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:No it isnt true. When I first saw a Genesis I had no clue what it was but I love the design. The OP actually has made a solid point and argument. The 2016 Civic is close to what he is asking for
No, it's true. You're not going to admit it, but it's true.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:25 pm to slackster
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Do you think aesthetics are the driving force behind the sales of the Camry?
Compared to its direct competition, yes.
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Do you believe the person who views the car's look as the most important feature is buying those vehicles? Serious questions.
No, but that's not the point, which is why you're still confused.
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Someone who is worried about aesthetics is not choosing a Camry over a Fusion
I would, because I don't think the new Fusion looks all that good. The previous generation was better looking to me.
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How you can read that and think that people must like the look of the Camry because it is #1 in sales blows my freaking mind.
Because the average person isn't an automotive journalist. You can't really be this oblivious, can you?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:26 pm to fisherbm1112
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Different lighting but just look at the difference in the image clarity in paint reflection and crisp lines and that should give you a very good idea of quality difference
Sure, but the Fusion is a perfect example of what the OP is asking for - a vehicle that looks great despite its mid level price tag. No one expects it to look exactly the same particularly with the cabin size restraints people expect on a sedan that Aston Martin can ignore, but it is a damn fine effort.
Why don't more people do the same?
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:26 pm to lsupride87
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No it isnt true.
Yea it is.
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When I first saw a Genesis I had no clue what it was but I love the design.
That doesn't disprove what I said.
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The OP actually has made a solid point and argument.
Not really.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:32 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Your point has been shite. You are saying that if Mercedes and BMW made cars that look like a prius from the beginning, our tiny human brains would have loved that particular look since the beginning due to their brand.
LNCHBOX
We all disagree with you
Maybe, in one thread instead of being a pompous arse, you can look in the mirror and see the problem may just be you
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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Compared to its direct competition, yes.
No, that isn't true. People in that segment who want something that looks good or the best are going to buy a Fusion, Altima, Sonata, or even a new Accord.
People buy the Camry because it is as boring as it is reliable, not because they like the way it looks. There is a difference between being bland and thinking bland looks good.
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Because the average person isn't an automotive journalist. You can't really be this oblivious, can you?
It has been the top selling car in the US for 14 straight years in spite of the fact that it looks like crap - particularly in the current generation. People buy it because they know what they are getting and the like the reliability. Case closed. Stop trying to argue people pick it because they think it looks the best in the mid-level sedan market. That is preposterous.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:37 pm to slackster
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No, that isn't true.
Prove it then.
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People in that segment who want something that looks good or the best are going to buy a Fusion, Altima, Sonata, or even a new Accord.
You are once again assigning you own personal opinion as fact. At some point you'll stop that, right?
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People buy the Camry because it is as boring as it is reliable
If that was the only reason, the Honda would outsell it because it is just as reliable.
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It has been the top selling car in the US for 14 straight years in spite of the fact that it looks like crap
Your opinion.
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particularly in the current generation
You opinion.
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. Stop trying to argue people pick it because they think it looks the best in the mid-level sedan market. That is preposterous.
I didn't claim that was the only reason, but my god you are just derping the hell out of this.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:38 pm to lsupride87
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Your point has been shite.
It hasn't.
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You are saying that if Mercedes and BMW made cars that look like a prius from the beginning, our tiny human brains would have loved that particular look since the beginning due to their brand.
To pretend that perceptions have no effect on anything is just silly.
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We all disagree with you
Actually, many don't.
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Maybe, in one thread instead of being a pompous arse, you can look in the mirror and see the problem may just be you
I'd gladly admit it if that was the case. It's not though.
ETA: And I'm not doing this again all afternoon. For any point you come up with, find a previous post of mine that applies to it.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:39 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:We arent arguing that. You are arguing the have 100% effect
To pretend that perceptions have no effect on anything is just silly.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:46 pm to LNCHBOX
Honda>>>>>>>>>Toyota. Just from experience. My 27 year old prelude that runs like a top is all the evidence I need. I'd take a Kia or Nissan over Toyota.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:47 pm to dukke v
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Honda>>>>>>>>>Toyota. Just from experience. My 27 year old prelude that runs like a top is all the evidence I need. I'd take a Kia or Nissan over Toyota.
Nissan over Toyota because of reliability? Never change peej.Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:49 pm to LNCHBOX
There really isn't much difference in the two. I have no problem with Toyota. Saying a Nissan over a Toyota is not that far fetched.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:50 pm to dukke v
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There really isn't much difference in the two. I have no problem with Toyota. Saying a Nissan over a Toyota is not that far fetched.
You should look into Nissans CVTs over the last few years. They're just now getting over the issues, but they made some shite vehicles for a good long while recently.
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