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re: Would the BB team have been better

Posted on 3/12/16 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/12/16 at 6:26 pm to
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I think Ben is a great kid and we all wanted him to be the player he's not. BUT, those same expectations will be on him in Philly or LA so how will he respond to that? He couldn't respond here, good luck in those cities!


He averaged 20-12-5 while shooting 56%, what did you want? The team was a colossal trainwreck, but wasn't Ben by far the bright spot? Why are people blaming him?
This post was edited on 3/12/16 at 6:30 pm
Posted by The Drizz
The Ville
Member since Jun 2010
1219 posts
Posted on 3/12/16 at 6:31 pm to
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He averaged 20-12-5 while shooting 56%, what did you want? The team was a colossal trainwreck, but wasn't Ben by far the bright spot? Why are people blaming him?


He's no leader, has no killer instinct. There's no reason this team should have been a trainwreck - he should have come in and let it be known from day one that it's his team. That's not his personality, we get it. For being the potential number 1 pick in the draft, shouldn't you have those intangibles and a jump shot at least?
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/12/16 at 6:35 pm to
My favorite thing about the "Blame Ben" crowd is that they all seem to think that both he a.) isn't as talented as the hype and that he b.) didn't care or try. But that is an epic contradiction. The one thing not in doubt is that he had one of the best statistical freshman seasons ever. If he isn't that talented, he must have put in Steve Wojciechowski, slapping the floor like effort to put up those numbers. Or if he didn't care, he must have been the most talented player ever to put up those numbers. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
This post was edited on 3/12/16 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20588 posts
Posted on 3/12/16 at 6:44 pm to
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He averaged 20-12-5 while shooting 56%, what did you want?
more wins
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The team was a colossal trainwreck,
the team made the NCAA tournament last season, you lost Mickey and Martin, kept the rest, and added Victor and Blakeney, and "the best prospect in a generation". In college basketball, that should have been enough to at least stay even.
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but wasn't Ben by far the bright spot?
No, in every BIG game we won, Quarterman seemed to mean more. Also in the Oklahoma loss.
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Why are people blaming him?
Hype. Kid was supposed to be sensational. He wasn't, he put up a ton of meaningless stats but disappeared when the team absolutely needed a star to step up.

I really don't care if Simmons can score 40 pts on North Florida. I'd like to see 20 pts once against A&M (3 times), Kentucky (twice) or Oklahoma, before he's proclaimed The Greatest.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18198 posts
Posted on 3/12/16 at 8:08 pm to
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He averaged 20-12-5 while s


because his stats were empty. He didn't take over games, take over the team, put the team on his back, or make big shots in close games.

He has a very limited offensive game outside of 5 feet. His points were layups and put backs. No threat (zero) outside of 5 feet.

He has a lot of skill and athleticism, especially for a guy his size, but he isn't a "take over the game" kind of guy.

And he has zero leadership ability.

I realize he had great stats, but to me, he was a big disappointment.

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