42 was talking about failure to trade him at any time during his 4 years here. If that was indeed their plan then by definition they either failed or changed their mind on Ryno's long term value to the team.

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Majority of teams have conceded the NBA title to the Warriors, Spurs and Cavs. That's why you didn't see many moves. They're just wait till free agency to improve their teams instead of paying for a rental.

Zach Lowe has been saying that the way the new CBA has set things up, June and July is when the action happens now. I'm not quite sure what he's referring to but he's said it multiple times. I guess it's the devaluation of expiring contracts which used to be the bread and butter of the trade deadline.

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what Demps wanted in return probably wasn't close to what he got offered

I think what Demps wants in return for Tyreke will always be greater than the market. I doubt Demps signed Tyreke thinking his value would possibly be less than he got for Ish. Another part of why I think he needs to be replaced. Demps has more invested in Tyreke than any other player, would he be willing to cut his losses if that's what's best for the team?

I've been one of Demps' biggest defenders on this board until the Asik contract. That's where he lost me, and even if he's got the greatest team building IQ in the league, I think he's got enough investment in the current roster to cloud his judgement and would prefer someone without those attachments. I also think his seat is much hotter than the people that think he's for sure coming back, and if you add a hot seat to his personal investment in the roster, I just find it hard to believe he's the best decision maker we can have at the helm.

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Posted by VOR

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Posted on 2/23/16 at 4:55 pm to TigerinATL

IMO, it's not complicated.

If this team somehow manages a respectable finish (however that's defined), Demps gets another year. If this roster shits the bed the rest of the season, he gone.

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Posted by corndeaux

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Posted on 2/23/16 at 5:39 pm to TigerinATL

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Interesting thoughts from 42 on the BSS podcast this week. He's stated for years that he felt Ryno and Tyreke were acquired with the intention of flipping them later for value

That's just a really, really odd take.

Can't speak to Evans, but I had it on good authority that Anderson was not signed just to flip. 2nd hand from Connelly that Anderson was signed because he was talented and they could worry about the fit later. Which is what you do when you just won 26 games and are rebuilding around a 19 year old phenom.

Now that doesn't mean the idea of flipping him wasn't around. That's not exclusive to Anderson- that's true of literally everyone they have brought in but Davis..And the Tyreke angle here is even loopier- Vasquez and Rolo (2/$10M) for the right to trade a guy who no one else was going to give more than $8M a year?

If that's true, Demps should have been fired years ago

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the new CBA has set things up, June and July is when the action happens now. I'm not quite sure what he's referring to but he's said it multiple times. I guess it's the devaluation of expiring contracts which used to be the bread and butter of the trade deadline.

You answered your own question. No one needs expirings any more with shorter contracts and especially the exploding cap. Gone, for now at least, are the days of "and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract"

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I think what Demps wants in return for Tyreke will always be greater than the market. I doubt Demps signed Tyreke thinking his value would possibly be less than he got for Ish. Another part of why I think he needs to be replaced. Demps has more invested in Tyreke than any other player, would he be willing to cut his losses if that's what's best for the team?

Which makes the signing guys just to trade them stuff silly. It's like Philly's drafting 3 consecutive high lottery bigs because "value." You never know how value will change. Finding guys that you can develop and fit what you're trying to do will increase value. I don't think Demps has had that light bulb come on yet. Evans was always a shaky fit w/ Gordon and Holiday, kind of like Noel, Okafor, and Embiid. Hard to increase value when two other guys are already doing what you do.

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