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re: Stealing third with no outs.

Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:35 pm to
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How times did we hear that this team needs to manufacture runs this year. Now when they are aggressive people want to complain. thats a hard throw for most college catchers.


You're on second with no outs. Then run has been manufactured. Get a basehit. Get a bunt and a fly ball. A passed ball and a fly ball. A slow roller to the right side of the field and a fly ball.

All of those situations score you from second. There is absolutely ZERO reason to steal third with no outs unless the catcher is missing an arm completely.

If they have an amputee then sure steal third with no outs. If you look behind home plate and see two arms then Stay. Your. arse. On. Second.
This post was edited on 2/21/16 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Goatofgoats
Sout Loosyanna
Member since Feb 2016
224 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:39 pm to
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unless the catcher is missing an arm completely.



This made me laugh.
Posted by Slippin Jimmy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2016
60 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 7:50 pm to
I agree with this but there can be exceptions. For instance, if you're on 2nd with no or 1 outs and there's a lefty batting with a hitter's count situation. Signal the batter to intentionally swing and miss the next pitch so the catcher has to avoid the batter's motion in order to get a shot of throwing the stealer out. The other team doesn't really expect this too often even though it takes big balls to play this kind of small ball
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85387 posts
Posted on 2/21/16 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

There is absolutely ZERO reason to steal third with no outs unless the catcher is missing an arm completely.


Not true at all actually. You don't still 3rd at random, but if you get to certain points in your primary lead and/or you've got a great read on the pitcher, you should do it.

Dee Gordon was 8 of 9 on his attempts to steal 3rd base in 2015. The numbers say a guy like that should steal 3rd with 0 outs AND he should steal 3rd with 2 outs.

Stealing 3rd at Dee Gordon's rate would produce .11 more runs than staying at 2nd base would, on average.
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