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re: 73 Years ago today: Battle of Stalingrad ends with the surrender of 6th Army

Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:44 am to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:44 am to
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One cannot understand WW 2 without understanding the German casualties in that battle and the effect of these losses for the remainder of the war. The Germans and their allies lost over 850,000 men at Stalingrad. In comparison, US casualties at the Battle of the Bulge, the greatest losses in any operation of that war were approximately 89,500. 'Catastrophic' doesn't come close.


Correct. Funny how US schools don't really teach how relevant Russia was to WWII. It's mostly just a constant parade of rah rah D-Day stuff.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:48 am to
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Correct. Funny how US schools don't really teach how relevant Russia was to WWII. It's mostly just a constant parade of rah rah D-Day stuff.



That's why you can't rely on what they teach in school, even at the collegiate level, to learn about history. All they do is scratch the surface on most subjects. And what's worse is they usual put a heavy political slant on what they teach.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:50 am to
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how relevant Russia was to WWII.


They weren't great tacticians exactly. They just kept pushing more fodder towards the cannons until they overwhelmed them. I give credit to the average Russian soldier, but General January won the war for them.
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:28 am to
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Cult of personality. Humans are naive and trusting of political, religious leaders. It is our fatal flaw. It still amazes me that more people simply don't have the ability to think for themselves in this day and age and with all of the information available to us at our fingertips.
i have nothing but respect for our wwii veterans. they are conservative, patriotic, christian, and sacrificed so much. truly the greatest generation of all time. however their love and respect for fdr is mind-boggling. he got into bed with stalin and destroyed capitalist america and turned it into the self-entitlement society of what it is today. every modern social and economic problem can be traced back to fdr.

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Correct. Funny how US schools don't really teach how relevant Russia was to WWII. It's mostly just a constant parade of rah rah D-Day stuff.
russia's "win" in the east is because of idiotic german blunders and an infinite supply of weapons, supplies, vehicles, and resources from the usa.
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