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re: George Lucas disappointed with the lack of creativity in The Force Awakens
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:26 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:26 pm to Sasquatch Smash
My bad. First Order. I've only seen it once.
I guess Kylo just wasn't as menacing as Vader. Vader was practically invincible.
I guess Kylo just wasn't as menacing as Vader. Vader was practically invincible.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 7:48 pm to alajones
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I guess Kylo just wasn't as menacing as Vader. Vader was practically invincible.
I mean, that's kind of the point of his character. He is desperately trying to be just like Vader, but failing at that. Kind of a kid playing dress up. His struggle was trying to overcome the light to be dark. Setting him up to be a sympathetic character, but that's going to be tough to find redemption in the eyes of fans after murdering such a beloved character.
Posted on 1/30/16 at 9:04 pm to alajones
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I guess Kylo just wasn't as menacing as Vader. Vader was practically invincible.
Darth Vader was a pretty hollow villain in the original. Intimidating certainly, but still hollow. Empire made him one of the all time greats, and it's because they introduced his vulnerability. A great villain should have a vulnerability that the audience can relate with to reconcile the horrible things the villain does. All the all-time great villains have it. JJ just decided to put it out up front and in the very core of the character. I think that was a great choice and can't wait to see what they do with his character going forward. He will be much more intimidating and powerful in Episode VIII, to where I'm almost certain he'll beat Rey in battle, even after training with Luke.
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 1/30/16 at 9:12 pm to alajones
I liked the movie, but Kylo made no sense...
Why does he wear a mask...for JJ and for fans and to look menacing?
Vader was like Jason when he would take off the mask...totally destroyed physically and supposedly disgusting to look at and Vader couldn't breathe without it. The Vader mask served a purpose...
Ren takes off his mask and you're like WTF? Who is this little dude who seems totally fine?
There's really nothing menacing about him. He's a kid.
I think they made him that young for the under 25 generation (the audience Hollywood caters to today and directs all their attention) - Ren could have been a lot older considering how old Han is...Ren could be 30plus and more at least and less dorky. Was he supposed to be in his 30's? I don't know, he looked like a teenager to me and he wasn't cool at all or someone you feared...he wasn't a man.
Why does he wear a mask...for JJ and for fans and to look menacing?
Vader was like Jason when he would take off the mask...totally destroyed physically and supposedly disgusting to look at and Vader couldn't breathe without it. The Vader mask served a purpose...
Ren takes off his mask and you're like WTF? Who is this little dude who seems totally fine?
There's really nothing menacing about him. He's a kid.
I think they made him that young for the under 25 generation (the audience Hollywood caters to today and directs all their attention) - Ren could have been a lot older considering how old Han is...Ren could be 30plus and more at least and less dorky. Was he supposed to be in his 30's? I don't know, he looked like a teenager to me and he wasn't cool at all or someone you feared...he wasn't a man.
This post was edited on 1/30/16 at 9:16 pm
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