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re: Do you think rock bands will ever make a resurgence?

Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:48 am to
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:48 am to
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It does suck that we lost the collective experience of a massive rock album coming out. Like you look forward to what niche band you likes new Album but there will never be a Led Zeppelin IV again.




Nope


and, does there have to be another Led Zeppelin?


Cant they just have a Queens of the Stone Age, or a All Them Witches or a Royal Blood instead?
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:53 am to
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It does suck that we lost the collective experience of a massive rock album coming out.


That hyperbole is ridiculous. It doesn't make any sense.

The people who think that "music sucks these days" are the ones who are lazy about finding music they like. They depend on fm radio to feed them great music. It's illogical and laughable.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:55 am to
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pop music has sucked for the large part because the only people they can make money off of is teens/pre-teens so that is what you hear.


Ok but pop music has been like that for decades upon decades.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:36 pm to
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Ok but pop music has been like that for decades upon decades.


Pop music is popular because it is:
Accessible
Unoffensive
Marketable

Who consumes music? Who actually buys records, listens to radio, and goes to concerts? In the 90's, and a lesser extend, the 80's, record companies realized who the people were who were buying these things, and it's pre-teen girls. They're highly impressionable and start trends which last and influence well into adult-hood. Think about where your most lasting musical influences were formed, probably before you turned 15. Pop radio is marketed to teen girls. That's why it's all about hunky shirtless "gentlemen" talking about romantic ways to make love in the backs of trucks, pop starlets talking about how hot they are, and wealthy edgy black rappers talking about how rich and cool they are while they f&$k. It's wish fulfillment. It's tapping into the inate desires of teenagers and pre-teens especially girls.

Girls want hunky romantic "gentlemen", guys their parents will hate who have money and are desired by other women, and they want to rebel against their parents' "oppression" by being rebelliously sexualized. That's what pop music is about. Notice that that is basically what most rock music was about in the 70's and 80's. When was the last time you heard a "rock" star about any of those things? Romantic ways to sneak off and make love? Being the coolest, richest, woman-pleasingest SOB on earth? Being the sexiest, most desired sex object a woman could aspire to be? Probably 1990 with "Cherry Pie". Late 90's maybe, but Pop Punk mostly talked about partying, being a sad lonely loser, or skateboarding.

Commercial radio promotes these values because that's what teens and pre-teens want to hear. Rock no longer embodies these simple, insipid values, so it is not played.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 1:46 pm to
I don't even know where to begin with this. You paint with an enormously large brush.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 1:55 pm to
That's fine. Just pick out the larger scheme and the general meme. The course of discussion will allow you to then address more specific points further on. I value your opinion and would like to hear your criticisms of it.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Ok but pop music has been like that for decades upon decades.


Maybe I am just too young but it seems early 90s, 70s and 60s all had good bands with large commercial success.

Record companies seemed more likely to push better bands.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:38 pm to
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dominate the radio


I really get upset listening to the "Rock" stations and there isnt a song made in the last 20 years on them.

95.7 and 96.3 should be mixing in new rock music with the classic stuff.

DJs used to have the fricking job of introducing new music to the people. Scouting new bands and playing their shite on the radio, etc....
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:40 pm to
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The people who think that "music sucks these days" are the ones who are lazy about finding music they like. They depend on fm radio to feed them great music.


Well wouldnt it be nice if while i was driving around there was a radio station dedicated to new music where they told you the name of the band and the song before each song came on?
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:50 pm to
You cannot argue any of that.

Its terrible to us, but we are the minority.



Rock is not dead for this reason however, it just takes some "scouting" to find. We are our own DJs now as it were. This is why I take pride in the music I enjoy and encourage others to try something new if the music I am promoting can be enjoyed by others.

Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:27 pm to
Actually it disappeared even furthef back than that. It litreally went out for good when the millenium/century/2000 came around. It was trailing off fast in the late 90s and completely disappeared around 2000. Thank God for satellite radio as it's the only outlet for decent pop/rock music. Terrestrial radio (at least as far as music is concerned) died around the year 2000.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:33 pm to
No
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:20 pm to
I'd say the average person doesn't listen to music as hard as some of us.

They are casual listeners that just want something catchy. These songs all tend to follow the same formula and are created to appeal to the masses. They don't care about lyrics, they don't care about a song being complicated, or having soul to it or substance, none of that.

But rock music isn't dead by no means. It's just not a big part of pop(ular) radio.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:41 pm to
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I'd say the average person doesn't listen to music as hard as some of us


100%, it takes some effort. There is also so much other media competing with music.

I am not nearly as into music as I was a few years ago.

I miss the mediafire/megaupload blog days because I basically was pirating people's taste. You'd find a few blogs that would post links that you would like then you would just piggy back off that


Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:56 pm to
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Well wouldnt it be nice if while i was driving around there was a radio station dedicated to new music where they told you the name of the band and the song before each song came on?


it's called XM radio
Posted by rbdallas
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 6:03 pm to
a lot of bands would sound much differently LIVE too much editing and add ons at the studio. Also, for small venues, the cost is too much to be able to recover thru the door.
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 6:29 pm to
Thank American Idol and The Voice for our tolerance to amateur music. Talent show winners as stars is incomprehensible.
Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:04 am to
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:58 am to
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DJs used to have the fricking job of introducing new music to the people. Scouting new bands and playing their shite on the radio, etc....


XM radio DJ's do. the FM radio DJ's get a list of songs to play by clearchannel.
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:48 am to
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Most damning, is that image has become everything. Outside of a very few areas that have, sort of, kept the tradition alive - there just aren't the legions of kids annoying their parents with the neighborhood garage band rehearsals. Without that critical mass of musicians from which to pluck the next generation of something approaching sincere young rock bands, it has died and will remain dead as a musical genre - a historical fact, rather than a living, breathing form of popular music.
Are you suggesting kids today would rather play Guitar Hero than work at becoming guitar heroes?
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