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re: Let's list all NCAAF coaches with more success than Les Miles
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:57 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:57 am to Galactic Inquisitor
Define Success?
2 SEC titles in 11 years? 3 Division titles in 11 years?
Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Since Texas A&M has come into this league, despite LSU killing them, they have the same amount of hardware on their mantles.
Spurrier had 3 11 win seasons in a row and beat the same Clemson team LSU lost to in the bowl game on the road.
That is just looking at the SEC. Hell, Patterson has done more at TCU in the past few years.
Les has not won a BCS bowl since 2007 and has been to one BCS bowl since his last national title.
Again, he's a good recruiter, good man, but has let this team flounder and struggle because he refuses to make the tough decisions with his coaches.
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
2 SEC titles in 11 years? 3 Division titles in 11 years?
Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Since Texas A&M has come into this league, despite LSU killing them, they have the same amount of hardware on their mantles.
Spurrier had 3 11 win seasons in a row and beat the same Clemson team LSU lost to in the bowl game on the road.
That is just looking at the SEC. Hell, Patterson has done more at TCU in the past few years.
Les has not won a BCS bowl since 2007 and has been to one BCS bowl since his last national title.
Again, he's a good recruiter, good man, but has let this team flounder and struggle because he refuses to make the tough decisions with his coaches.
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
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Posted on 11/9/15 at 11:59 am to Geauxgurt
Miles is useless.Time to move on.Time to get a new coach.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:38 pm to Geauxgurt
Define Success?
2 SEC titles in 11 years? 3 Division titles in 11 years?
Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Since Texas A&M has come into this league, despite LSU killing them, they have the same amount of hardware on their mantles.
Spurrier had 3 11 win seasons in a row and beat the same Clemson team LSU lost to in the bowl game on the road.
That is just looking at the SEC. Hell, Patterson has done more at TCU in the past few years.
Les has not won a BCS bowl since 2007 and has been to one BCS bowl since his last national title.
Again, he's a good recruiter, good man, but has let this team flounder and struggle because he refuses to make the tough decisions with his coaches.
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
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There's lots of coaches who do MORE with LESS. If you compare recruiting classes with resulting success, Miles is just above average at best.
2 SEC titles in 11 years? 3 Division titles in 11 years?
Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Since Texas A&M has come into this league, despite LSU killing them, they have the same amount of hardware on their mantles.
Spurrier had 3 11 win seasons in a row and beat the same Clemson team LSU lost to in the bowl game on the road.
That is just looking at the SEC. Hell, Patterson has done more at TCU in the past few years.
Les has not won a BCS bowl since 2007 and has been to one BCS bowl since his last national title.
Again, he's a good recruiter, good man, but has let this team flounder and struggle because he refuses to make the tough decisions with his coaches.
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
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There's lots of coaches who do MORE with LESS. If you compare recruiting classes with resulting success, Miles is just above average at best.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:32 pm to Geauxgurt
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Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
I like how you cut off Miles tenure. Only 1 program in the sec has been consistent than Miles and it's bama.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:42 pm to Geauxgurt
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There was literally no reason to bring Preveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis.
I suppose the Preveto hire was a bad move with the poor play of the special teams units this year, but I'm under the impression that he's a solid recruiter. So, if he is, perhaps that's why Miles hired him back.
As far as Steele is concerned, I think he should be given a chance to prove himself as a DC. It's not his fault that Chavis didn't give a hoot about recruiting. He's playing the hand he was dealt.
I personally think it's too early to give up on this team and coaching staff, but that's just my opinion.
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Auburn has more SEC west titles and SEC titles than Les in the last 8 years and more NC appearances and titles than Les.
Why would you pick the last 8 years? Is it because it fits your narrative that Auburn is better than LSU? I ask because I disagree with you.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:59 pm to Geauxgurt
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Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
You mean the juggernaut that finished 9-3 and ranked #16 under the great Saban in 2004? The one that got beaten 45-16 at UGA that year and the one that lost to fricken IOWA?
I hate revisionist history.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:30 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
There was literally no reason to bring Peveto back. Steele was a multi-time failure as a DC and a position coach, yet Les hired him to replace Chavis. Again, Les is not as good as someone of you like to believe, and I doubt had he taken over anything but the juggernaut LSU already was in 2005 that this team would be anything more than an annual 8-5 team on average.
All of this and then some.
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