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re: in retrospect, Cars is not the shitshow the MTV Board argues

Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:08 pm to
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No, they were meant to be cows, in a field. Think about this: The Cows didn't really seem to "evolve." They were Cars, with the properties of Cows, in a world of Cars who had the properties of humans. So essentially, it was like putting neanderthals, or some other sub-human ancestor, in the present day.



That makes no sense whatsoever. They were "cows" just like the cars were people. They went "cow tipping" and when they did it made the tractors make a fart noise. That's funny to every kid that has ever watched it, and it was funny to the kid in me. That was the sole purpose of that scene, to make you laugh, not dissect the evolution of cows in the movie.

This movie was meant to appeal to adults by taking cars and making them have human problems but with a car twist. That's it. It is meant to be funny not realistic in evolution.

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I have no bias towards the Larry the Cable Guy and he is really maybe the least important problem in the film. He's a problem, just not an important one (until Cars 2 that is).


I wouldn't call him a problem, considering Mater is one of the most loved characters Disney has.
Doesn't sound like you have no bias, and that review just lamented more as to how the cool hip critics hate for Larry the Cable Guy and his brand of comedy, which was very popular at that time, may have influenced many adults in how they viewed this film. It's ok to laugh at jokes made by Larry the Cable Guy. It doens't make you a white trash redneck to think something he said was funny, but some people will never admit that he's funny b/c they think they are lowering themselves by doing so. and again, I do not care for him, he's funny at times, but i think theres a lot a people that hate him and dont like the comedy he represents, or mainly the crowd he attracts.

It's ok for the TRex to be an idiot, b/c we dont' know who it is, but we dont' like the fact that Mater is an idiot b/c it's Larry the Cable Guy. That's what I gathered from that review.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
114134 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:49 pm to
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That makes no sense whatsoever. They were "cows" just like the cars were people. They went "cow tipping" and when they did it made the tractors make a fart noise. That's funny to every kid that has ever watched it, and it was funny to the kid in me. That was the sole purpose of that scene, to make you laugh, not dissect the evolution of cows in the movie.


Think: why would there be something like a cow in this universe? Why is the tractor not like everyone else in this universe? Yes, we get it, they're making fun of cows. It's not high concept, nor do I find it all that funny. Sure kids will, but it's something that I think just about anyone could come up with. Pixar's jokes in the past are typically much smarter than this.

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This movie was meant to appeal to adults by taking cars and making them have human problems but with a car twist. That's it. It is meant to be funny not realistic in evolution.


Ok, answer me this: if the cars in this movie were human instead, what has changed with the plot? I'll tell you: nothing. All it does is get rid of the car puns. Even Turbo was at least able to say why it's important that the main character is a snail and not human.

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I wouldn't call him a problem, considering Mater is one of the most loved characters Disney has


Only by the borderline literate and illiterate.

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It's ok for the TRex to be an idiot, b/c we dont' know who it is, but we dont' like the fact that Mater is an idiot b/c it's Larry the Cable Guy. That's what I gathered from that review.


He's more like Pixar's Jar Jar. He's the only Pixar character I can think of I find annoying. The adult audience also rolls their eyes every time he's on screen, even if the kids love him. Pixar does pretty well with this usually and rarely has dud characters.
Posted by Indigold
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 3:54 pm to
Take all the Pixar movies where they have personified different things, let's just use Toy Story, Monster's Inc, Finding Nemo, and Cars. All of these movies take a single idea an expand upon it. TS- what if toys were alive, MI- what if there really were monsters in the closet, FN- what if fish could talk, Cars- what if cars could talk.

Toy Story bases the story on what they perceive toys would worry about: jealousy of newer, cooler toys, being lost, being broken, their owner growing up and being neglected.

Monsters Inc. is set in a world where there actually are monsters in the closet, there's a reason the parents never see them (because they power down the door), and gives them a reason for them to scare. Yes, they are sort of humanized, like in Cars, by them having 9-5 jobs, houses/apartments, relationships, etc. But at least the plot revolves around the very fact that they are monsters.

Finding Nemo takes the idea that fish can talk and expands upon it. The fish all have fish-like personalities. There are predators who like to eat fish, prey who are scared of the vastness of the ocean, seagulls who are annoying as shite, etc. The idea of fish talking is expanded upon in it's own world.

I'll let you take a crack at the expansion of the Cars idea. Because all I can come up with is that they live like humans.

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
37667 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 4:16 pm to
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That makes no sense whatsoever. They were "cows" just like the cars were people. They went "cow tipping" and when they did it made the tractors make a fart noise. That's funny to every kid that has ever watched it, and it was funny to the kid in me. That was the sole purpose of that scene, to make you laugh, not dissect the evolution of cows in the movie.


So wait, are the Cars supposed to be Humans, homo sapiens, or are they supposed to be animals? What branch of the evolutionary tree are they? And how are Human Cars related to Cow Cars?

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This movie was meant to appeal to adults by taking cars and making them have human problems but with a car twist. That's it. It is meant to be funny not realistic in evolution.


So you admit that it isn't realistic? That the movie lacks logical consistency? If so, we are on the same page you just don't see it as a problem and some of us do.

That's cool.

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Doesn't sound like you have no bias, and that review just lamented more as to how the cool hip critics hate for Larry the Cable Guy and his brand of comedy, which was very popular at that time, may have influenced many adults in how they viewed this film. It's ok to laugh at jokes made by Larry the Cable Guy. It doens't make you a white trash redneck to think something he said was funny, but some people will never admit that he's funny b/c they think they are lowering themselves by doing so. and again, I do not care for him, he's funny at times, but i think theres a lot a people that hate him and dont like the comedy he represents, or mainly the crowd he attracts.


It's cool Larry. I watched Blue Collar once and laughed a few times. You can be funny occasionally, in small doses. I have uttered the phrase git her done at least a couple of times


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