Agreed. Sure, there's a money motive, but Pixar/Disney is such a trusted brand because their primary goal is to make GOOD movies first and foremost, under the logic that money will follow from putting out a consistently excellent product. If not, we'd just rate the films on gross and go home. But that's not why people discuss movies. Or hold them dear.

I'd argue also that Pixar has the opposite problem with one of its more critically adored films in Ratatouille. It aims at adults, but kids hate it (or at least the ones I know). So I think it is a failure as a FAMILY film, which is the genre, if it can't connect with the whole family. Ratatouille and Cars are the opposite ends of that spectrum. Neither are outright bad films, but I don't think either fully succeed as quality family films.

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Posted by MrTide33

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Posted on 10/7/15 at 2:16 pm to Baloo

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I'd argue also that Pixar has the opposite problem with one of its more critically adored films in Ratatouille. It aims at adults, but kids hate it (or at least the ones I know). So I think it is a failure as a FAMILY film, which is the genre, if it can't connect with the whole family. Ratatouille and Cars are the opposite ends of that spectrum. Neither are outright bad films, but I don't think either fully succeed as quality family films.

That's an interesting analysis, and I think it explains why Cars was my 16 seed and Ratatouille was my 15 seed in the tournament. One was critically acclaimed, but unpopular especially with kids), the other was popular (especially with kids) but critically mediocre.

ETA: Frozen had popularity AND critical score, which is why I overrated it as a 2 seed, but then paired it against a truly good movie from a critical perspective, but not from a kid popularity perspective.

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