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re: The fact the Saints let Collins out of this State..

Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:03 am to
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11978 posts
Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:03 am to
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As a former player, you have no idea how disgusting it is to ask another player to tank a game. It's bad enough to hold out your key players when you lock up a seed in the playoffs, it's a completely different thing to ask a team to tank for a better draft pick next year (especially when a solid percentage of them won't even be on the same team with that 'better' draft pick anyway). The race to the bottom is completely opposite from what the game of football is.

Nobody said ask the players to "tank" the game. Why not put in Griffin? Why not finally fricking play SJB? Since you were a player, why don't you explain exactly what was the point of playing 1st string against Tampa Bay 3rd stringers? Risk injury to Brees for what exactly? Win a game against a 1 win team for what exactly? Not once person, especially not me is saying Brees should have tanked. I'm saying Brees should have been on the bench in the 2nd half, just like TBs entire offense. They didn't throw a pass the entire second half or something like that. I'm saying we see what a 2nd round pick could do instead of him sitting on the bench still (SJB).

How does this not make sense to you? Instead of getting to pick #9, the Saints pick 13 and watch the guy they want go 1 fricking pick in front of them. So what do they do, pick a backup! Yay for that all important win over TB

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Get over it, the FO had one of the safest drafts I've seen in the Sean Payton era and for once I am glad they targeted players that shore up the future of the team at positions that were traditionally ignored. You also have some quality players that will make an immediate impact and will grow with the team.

Yeah, cause Shelton and Collins wouldn't make an immediate impact or shore up the future of the team. Why do people have to swallow everything fed to them? The team fricked up. It's ok to admit that.
Posted by bountyhunter
North of Houston a bit
Member since Mar 2012
6364 posts
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:02 am to
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Nobody said ask the players to "tank" the game.

When you don't play your best players you send a message to your team that you don't care about the outcome of the game. Coaches expect players to go out and give 100% every snap, players expect their coaches to put them in the best position to win. I can guarantee you, them putting their first stringers in the game was a way to test their resolve at finishing out a game, even when the championship is out of the question. Afterall, it wasn't the backups that lost those games for us (with the exception of maybe Bryce Harris).
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why don't you explain exactly what was the point of playing 1st string against Tampa Bay 3rd stringers

Could some of the guys at the back of the roster have used more time in that game? Absolutely, but if you recall they were using some of those snaps to put players in unconventional roles (they did some actual 3-4 looks in that game). They were evaluating their "1st string" for the following year.

Also, this is the NFL. Every player in a final 53 roster are better than average football players that performed at a high level at the college level or have proven themselves to earn a spot on a team. When coaches say there is no tiered system on their team, they are being accurate (especially in the NFL).

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Instead of getting to pick #9, the Saints pick 13 and watch the guy they want go 1 fricking pick in front of them. So what do they do, pick a backup! Yay for that all important win over TB

Congratulations on your perfect 20/20 in hindsight, but sometimes closing out a season on a high note means a lot for the confidence going into the next season. Plus you never know what's going to happen on draft day.
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Yeah, cause Shelton and Collins wouldn't make an immediate impact or shore up the future of the team. Why do people have to swallow everything fed to them? The team fricked up. It's ok to admit that.

So by me saying that last draft was not that bad, and playing to win your final game of the season, I am "swallowing everything fed" to me? Give me a break, you are making judgments in hindsight from the stands with no idea what is going on at the team level. It was obvious there were going to need to be major changes at all levels of the organization and they are going to view playtime as the best litmus for making those decisions.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 7:08 am
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