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re: Kevin Steele & O making Turnovers a Priority

Posted on 8/7/15 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29887 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 1:32 pm to
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He's been much better at teaching our position groups and being more active in practices. Chavis would sit in a corner and yell at people. Steele is working with the DL, LBs, and DBs, all while he creates gameplans for future opponents


Chavis won a National Title at UT and was the main reason they won it. In 2011 LSU had one of the best teams of all time and it was again mainly due to Chavis' defense. So say what you want about the guy, but he has proven himself a lot more as a DC than Steele has up until now. Now I'm not saying Steele won't be as good, this will be his first time driving a Cadillac so to speak.... so who knows? Hopefully with everything he will have at his disposal, LSU will have FILTHY defenses for years to come! But he has not proven anything yet.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23764 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 1:36 pm to
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Chavis won a National Title at UT and was the main reason they won it. In 2011 LSU had one of the best teams of all time and it was again mainly due to Chavis' defense. So say what you want about the guy, but he has proven himself a lot more as a DC than Steele has up until now. Now I'm not saying Steele won't be as good, this will be his first time driving a Cadillac so to speak.... so who knows? Hopefully with everything he will have at his disposal, LSU will have FILTHY defenses for years to come! But he has not proven anything yet.


One thing about Shavis and those two great defenses. Go back and look at the talent on those two particular teams. Yes, he did great things with them. However, that's what it requires for him to have a great, well balanced defense. When he didn't have that talent or experience level, you can start to get down into the statistics and see weaknesses, like his last two LSU defenses.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3948 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Chavis won a National Title at UT and was the main reason they won it. In 2011 LSU had one of the best teams of all time and it was again mainly due to Chavis' defense.


Well, I guess Pelini can sit pretty because he has done the same. The reason it happened it 2011 was because of Mingo, Montgomery, Reid, Mathieu, Claiborne, etc. It was the best assembly of talent running the same scheme that was run in 2012, 2013, and 2014. Same at UT. Chavis was a great DC, but so was Pelini who finished higher on average all three years that he coached here. Continuity is what we're aiming for. The push by the players is for this season. The push by the coaches is for the foreseeable future of the program and you've got to get the best out of each and every class to get there.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18972 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Chavis won a National Title at UT and was the main reason they won it. In 2011 LSU had one of the best teams of all time and it was again mainly due to Chavis' defense. So say what you want about the guy, but he has proven himself a lot more as a DC than Steele has up until now.


You are also overlooking the talent he was given to work with at both Tennessee & LSU over the years. The reality is he's a good coach but there also serious flaws in his scheme when it comes to his mustang package & off man coverages on 3rd & long/2 minute drill situations.

The cover 2 he likes to run is going the way of the dinosaur on the college level. Just look at the struggles the creator himself Monte Kiffen had with it at USC.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:15 pm to
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Chavis won a National Title at UT and was the main reason they won it. In 2011 LSU had one of the best teams of all time and it was again mainly due to Chavis' defense.


I'm going to say this as nicely as I can...Chavis was a downgrade to Pelini.

Reposting from the SECR:

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2009: 11th nationally in PPG
2010: 11th
2011: 2nd
2012: 10th
2013: 21st
2014: 3rd


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Pelini spent three years with the Tigers, establishing LSU as one of the nation’s top defenses during that time. In each of his three years with the Tigers, Pelini’s defenses ranked No. 3 in the nation in yards allowed. LSU also ranked No. 3 nationally in scoring in 2005 and No. 4 in 2006.


Chavis wasn't as good as Pelini was at DC.

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