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re: Chip Kelly: There is something there if the ex-players keep saying something
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:41 am to NWTS_
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:41 am to NWTS_
Chip Kelly: "Guys, we pay you millions of dollars to work here and play this game. So for 18-22 weeks out of the year, we want you out of the bars and in bed early. Absolute dedication is mandatory. If you don't like it, we'll send you somewhere else where you can screw around and miss the playoffs. Just ask DeSean Jackson."
Idiots: "That's racist."
Idiots: "That's racist."
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:42 am to NWTS_
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you cant discredit the african american experience
GTFO.
There is no "African American Experience" outside of petulant behavior which transcends racial boundaries.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:43 am to ManBearTiger
You don't even have to compare him to a black coach--- has a white coach ever been accused of this ? I haven't heard of it. and I'm sure we've had a more than few questionable head coaches
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:43 am to NWTS_
He got paid because of a stretch the previous year. What he did last year has no bearing on his contract. If he performs at a below contract level the Eagles will do 1 of two things: cut him or get him to take a paycut. He was paid based on potential and then did not live up to the potential.
He is not the first player to get paid based on a sample size of production because of what they could possibly do.
He didn't "tear" apart a locker room either Vick and others stood behind him. Plays who can't realize what he did was a mistake and see how he is everyday are the ones who can't let go and hold grudges on everything. If he was a racist a true racist he would have a history of making comments and acting a certain way.
You keep pushing an issue that does not exist. So a strong safety alter? Came out because that account got banned?
He is not the first player to get paid based on a sample size of production because of what they could possibly do.
He didn't "tear" apart a locker room either Vick and others stood behind him. Plays who can't realize what he did was a mistake and see how he is everyday are the ones who can't let go and hold grudges on everything. If he was a racist a true racist he would have a history of making comments and acting a certain way.
You keep pushing an issue that does not exist. So a strong safety alter? Came out because that account got banned?
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 7:46 am
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:44 am to ManBearTiger
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GTFO.
There is no "African American Experience" outside of petulant behavior which transcends racial boundaries.
Do you say that from your own personal knowledge or is this just something you think
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:48 am to logjamming
"Idiots": "but coach, this a results driven league, and we didn't have one player that could knock off the top of a coverage, vertically, last year. But you chose to keep a receiver that is the worst in the league, who is a decisive figure in the locker room, overpaid, and can't stretch a coverage. Shouldn't he be cut like other players that fit his profile"
Chip Kelly's: "well.."
Chip Kelly's: "well.."
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:55 am to NWTS_
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You don't even have to compare him to a black coach--- has a white coach ever been accused of this ? I haven't heard of it. and I'm sure we've had a more than few questionable head coaches
I'm not making any comparisons, that was you.
As far as the point you keep lobbing out- "Why haven't other coaches in the past been accused of this?"
Your answer: the current generation of blacks have been propped up to believe that if they don't get special treatment (not equal- special) from whites, then that white must be a raycess. It's a movement that transcends socioeconomic status, I've seen it from Mech. Engineering students who grew up pampered some of the nicest areas of LA/TX to gas station drones who have known nothing but hatred and ignorance most of their life (hatred which overwhelmingly comes from members of their own race and which they learn to emulate). I saw it in every part-time job I've ever had with a white manager who employs at least 50% blacks. It is a culture problem, but not in the way you think.
In fact, every single one of my employers was accused of racism by a black coworker at some point. Sure it never reaches the level of being news, but a certain percentage of blacks at any level of professionalism will think their boss is a "big meanie racist" when they are just trying to operate a business. Same for whites, except they can only say the boss is a "big meanie," only those with Black Privilege can play the racist card whenever they want.
This post was edited on 8/5/15 at 8:09 am
Posted on 8/5/15 at 7:57 am to NWTS_
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Do you say that from your own personal knowledge or is this just something you think
I say it from my "Real World Experience," look into the movement, it might be trending on twitter ATM.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:11 am to NWTS_
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Why are folks so up in arms in regards to him potentially being unable to understand another culture
because it's not a misunderstanding of a culture. it's exclusion of a culture from the locker room. the pats do that, too, fwiw
i'm sure he understands it well enough and that's why he doesn't want it around his locker room
now, here is your cognitive issue: you're assuming everyone is assuming he will succeed, which i don't think people are saying. these moves are a gamble and they may not pay off on the field. that is a strategical error, but doesn't indicate some insidious bias in kelly
it's this simple: he doesn't want flashy, "me-first" players. he wants strict adherence to the team and system without ego
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:13 am to NWTS_
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Belchick even had to mend his rules, and has taken on a few more "headcases" then we give him credit.
the pats gamble on acquiring cheap vets who have bad reputations but demand those players "buy in" and will cut them if they don't
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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he doesn't want flashy, "me-first" players. he wants strict adherence to the team and system without ego
check your Caucasiarchal coded-language baw.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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because it's not a misunderstanding of a culture. it's exclusion of a culture from the locker room. the pats do that, too, fwiw
i'm sure he understands it well enough and that's why he doesn't want it around his locker room
That is false. The pats locked into a veteran laden squad for those first 3 championships--- since then, their teams have been littered with head cases left and right and guys from "that culture". Don't let winning. Obscure your view.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:20 am to ManBearTiger
i doubt he'd consider signing jared allen, richie incognito, etc
if this was the NBA i could list much better examples. there aren't too many white NFL players with big personalities and public egos
if this was the NBA i could list much better examples. there aren't too many white NFL players with big personalities and public egos
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:21 am to SlowFlowPro
Aaron Hernandez, gronk, Alonzo Dennard, spikes, Blount, etc disagree
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:24 am to NWTS_
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since then, their teams have been littered with head cases left and right and guys from "that culture".
but those guys are signed with the requirement that they buy in and shed that ego. those that don't, don't last long...like ocho cinco
mostly they target super-talented vets who want to win but who found themselves in joke organizations, leading to mercurial attitudes
corey dillon and randy moss weren't bad guys...but on shitty teams with bad organizations, they grew insolent
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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here aren't too many white NFL players with big personalities and public egos
Is statement is full of so much "bias".
Brees, Brady (do we see what he is doing right now), Manning, Romo, Gronk are Big personalities with public egos.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:26 am to NWTS_
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Aaron Hernandez,
before the murders, what public ego incidents did he have?
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gronk,
Gronk has fun in the offseason, but during the season tell me the incidents? the biggest one i can remember is fricking bibi jones and he got a swift talking to and i don't think anything like that happened again
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spikes, Blount,
again, what incidents?
blount had issues on an inferior team but as soon as he got to new england he was a boy scout
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:28 am to NWTS_
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Brees, Brady, Manning, Romo,
those guys give the most bland "coachspeak" interviews all the goddamn time (which is to be expected)
i did almost put cutler, but he doesn't seek the limelight he hates it, so it doesn't really work. he's a weird guy...more similar to kelly than the players kelly cut
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Gronk
see above
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:32 am to NWTS_
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Aaron Hernandez, gronk, Alonzo Dennard, spikes, Blount, etc disagree
I've never heard any reports that any of these guys brought their personal issues with them to work or let it affect their training.
Posted on 8/5/15 at 8:33 am to ManBearTiger
aaron hernandez was such a sociopath and so good at "not bringing his home life to work" that he was a secret serial killer and nobody knew
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