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re: OB's thoughts on lion killing situation in Africa?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:39 am to LSU0358
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:39 am to LSU0358
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Big game/trophy hunting doesn't interest me in the least
So do you shoot the first legal deer that walks in front of you?
Whether you like it or not, without rich guys paying big money to go hunt Africa there would be no conservation efforts. These giant game perseveres cost money. The anti poaching effort cost money. The only way to pay for the animals is to assign a value to non breeding or dangerous animals.
This particular hunt seems a little fishy but it is not the norm. These animals are not wasted. If you listen to the Corey Knowles interview he talks about a bull elephant he shot being picked clean by villagers in a very short time.
Condemning someone for trophy hunting African Lion when you are a deer hunter, is kind of silly. For all we know there is a healthy and huntable population of African Lion where this one was killed.
We need to get rid of this idea of Charismatic Megafauna.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:03 pm to Barf
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So do you shoot the first legal deer that walks in front of you?
Most of the time, yes. I'm in it for the meat and having a good time at the camp. I'll never hang a deer at my house.
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Condemning someone for trophy hunting African Lion when you are a deer hunter, is kind of silly. For all we know there is a healthy and huntable population of African Lion where this one was killed.
I didn't condemn all trophy hunters, I just said that the sport doesn't interest me. As for the subject trophy hunter, this guy has already broken several hunting laws (no license, lying about location of bear taken, etc). He has a poor history and it makes his "I blame the guide service" excuse hard to swallow.
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For all we know there is a healthy and huntable population of African Lion where this one was killed.
If this is the case, nothing wrong with hunting them in a responsible and legal manner. The dentist's hunt doesn't meet those qualifications.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:07 pm to Barf
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This particular hunt seems a little fishy but it is not the norm.
This is the point I am trying to make. Hunting these animals is good, however, based on the evidence currently out there, I do believe what he did was wrong. It is definitely not the norm.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 2:09 pm to Barf
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Whether you like it or not, without rich guys paying big money to go hunt Africa there would be no conservation efforts. These giant game perseveres cost money. The anti poaching effort cost money. The only way to pay for the animals is to assign a value to non breeding or dangerous animals.
Yep without the money raised by the the license fees and spent by the hunters while they are there, these preserves wouldn't exist. It is not like the national governments of Zimbabwe, Uganda, South Africa, etc are able to throw away money on wildlife preserves like the US is.
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This particular hunt seems a little fishy
I don't know enough about to hunt to really comment, but it is very skeptical. I can understand not seeing the collar before he shot, but once it was dead removing and trying to destroy the collar is a dead give away that it is not on the up and up.
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but it is not the norm.
absolutely. The majority of hunts are done in legal and ethical ways.
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These animals are not wasted. If you listen to the Corey Knowles interview he talks about a bull elephant he shot being picked clean by villagers in a very short time.
Condemning someone for trophy hunting African Lion when you are a deer hunter, is kind of silly. For all we know there is a healthy and huntable population of African Lion where this one was killed.
The meat on this big game hunts is not wasted and is eaten by the locals. The local tribes that pick the animals clean are alot like the native americans that used every part of the buffalo. So a hunter critizing a hunter for killing an animal he didn't eat is just dumb. Would you criticize a hunter killing a deer, duck, or hog and donating it to hunters feeding the hungry or local foodbank or some other charity organization?
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