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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career

Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:50 pm to
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you think 20 total passes in 5 games is enough passes to make a reliable conclusion as to his quality of play? I guess you do because you think comparing a season of 40 passes to one of 269 passes is a fair comparison. Like I said, it's very easy to use statistics to "win" any argument, if you use them the right way. But as most sensible know, statistics can be very misleading. You had an entire argument about how ESPN's QBR isn't reliable, yet here you are doing the same thing, making your own rules as to what stats and what games should be applied to come up with your own conclusions
The ESPN QBR is an unreliable statistic because it's method is unknown outside of ESPN and it cannot be verified.

Everyday comparisons are made in the sports world using statistics that are generally accepted: BA, OBP, YPC, YPA, FT%, etc. And the people who do those comparisons are not generally completely unconcerned about the quantity of stats to be compared.

You are the only person who seems to be concerned about the comparison of Lee's 2008 season to his 2009 season. Indeed, in the spring of 2010, everyone who discussed Lee and Jefferson, and I do mean everyone, compared Lee's 2008 season to his 2009 season.

Raise the issue now, if you want, but it is fairly irrelevant.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:52 pm to
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The ESPN QBR is an unreliable statistic because it's method is unknown outside of ESPN and it cannot be verified.


Verified how?

As long as a statistic is calculated using a common method, the statistic is valid.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 7/31/15 at 12:56 pm to
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The ESPN QBR is an unreliable statistic because it's method is unknown outside of ESPN and it cannot be verified.

i never tried to say it wasn't unreliable. i said your analysis, as well, was unreliable and implied you were being a hypocrite
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