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re: Favorite & least favorite film in imdb top20?
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:52 pm to Baloo
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:52 pm to Baloo
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Their abuse of Jack in the end is clearly over the line, but I really don't feel like the point of the film is take a stand against lobotomies, or even the mental health profession. I just think it's a bit heavy-handed and it stacks the deck in favor of its argument, primarily evidenced by giving the hero of the film a lobotomy. I mean, its so over the top.
I do like the film and I'm actually sympathetic to its worldview... I just think they overstate the case. And I don't like a rigged debate. It shows a lack of genuine belief in your argument (as every viewpoint has flaws, you just have to admit and confront them).
Why don't you think the movie emphasizes what's wrong about the mental health profession?
It is heavy handed, but the truth is worse. When the Soviets (among others) declare the lobotomy procedure inhumane while we do tens of thousands of them it seems to me the audience is deprived of an even uglier reality.
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 3:18 pm to molsusports
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Why don't you think the movie emphasizes what's wrong about the mental health profession?
It is heavy handed, but the truth is worse.
Lobotomies were common in th 1940s and 50s but had almost completely fallen out of favor by 1970. Most nations had outlawed the procedure, not that anyone was still performing them at that late dat except the quackiest of quacks. By the time the movie came out in 1975, the lobotomy was not practiced in American mental hospitals. The book came out in 1962, when it was at least possible to have a lobotomy, but even then, it had fallen out of favor except in the most extreme cases.
The reason is twofold: they are ineffective and we developed drugs to deal with metal disorders. A film coming out in 1975 to warn the American public of the dangers of the lobotomy is like a film coming out now to warn us of the Y2K bug.
It's a shock tactic, and one that wouldn't have been used on McMurtry. It wasn't a punitive procedure and even then, there is the element of consent for any surgical procedure. Even if the film was set when a lobotomy was more likely, like 1950, the doctors still likely would have gotten consent (ok, probably fraudulently, but they still check the box).
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