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re: Favorite & least favorite film in imdb top20?

Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:08 pm to
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I like that you generally have a thoughtful viewpoint but... the shockingly common use of frontal lobe lobotomies by American mental health practitioners is an important story that overshadows your concerns IMO.

I honestly thought I was going to take much more crap for speaking ill of Cuckoo's Nest, which is genuine sacred cow to a generation of movie fans. It's right up there with bad-mouthing Jaws.

I get where you're coming from, and I do agree lobotomies are a terrible, terrible thing, but it's not really what the film is about. Their abuse of Jack in the end is clearly over the line, but I really don't feel like the point of the film is take a stand against lobotomies, or even the mental health profession. I just think it's a bit heavy-handed and it stacks the deck in favor of its argument, primarily evidenced by giving the hero of the film a lobotomy. I mean, its so over the top.

I do like the film and I'm actually sympathetic to its worldview... I just think they overstate the case. And I don't like a rigged debate. It shows a lack of genuine belief in your argument (as every viewpoint has flaws, you just have to admit and confront them).
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36178 posts
Posted on 6/12/15 at 2:52 pm to
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Their abuse of Jack in the end is clearly over the line, but I really don't feel like the point of the film is take a stand against lobotomies, or even the mental health profession. I just think it's a bit heavy-handed and it stacks the deck in favor of its argument, primarily evidenced by giving the hero of the film a lobotomy. I mean, its so over the top.

I do like the film and I'm actually sympathetic to its worldview... I just think they overstate the case. And I don't like a rigged debate. It shows a lack of genuine belief in your argument (as every viewpoint has flaws, you just have to admit and confront them).



Why don't you think the movie emphasizes what's wrong about the mental health profession?

It is heavy handed, but the truth is worse. When the Soviets (among others) declare the lobotomy procedure inhumane while we do tens of thousands of them it seems to me the audience is deprived of an even uglier reality.
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