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re: Biker Shootout at the Twin Peaks in Waco, TX

Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 10:50 am to
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I just read the Texas statute and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I know nothing about the Grim Guardian MC but if they're known to "continuously or regularly" (whatever that means) associate in the commission of criminal activities and if one member of their MC committed even a Class A misdemeanor assault, then I don't know how they avoid conviction, much less argue that their arrests were wrongful, though the initial $1 million bond seems excessive, but I think that was eventually reduced for those 3. I could be wrong.


I don't know a lot about the Grim Guardians MC. They have no presence in my state and I believe they're a small "mom & pop" club that is from Texas only. As for being part of any organized crime, unless they're a "bitch" (support) club for a larger 1%er club, I highly doubt they're involved in anything illegal.

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Darth...have you read that statute? What I'm wondering is...do you think the DA is looking at the entirety of the COCI as the organization, instead of the Bandidos or Cossacks? Since the COCI allows and is made up of what I think most recognize as criminal gangs, are they going to try to argue that the larger and broader COCI is the criminal organization and anyone there as part of it are just as guilty as the one taking a swing or pulling a knife or whatever? I think that's a stretch and can't fly but I'm wondering if that's what they're trying to do. Though, that is just one more reason why they should have never allowed such MC's to be involved with it.



Here's the thing. This fight that broke out in the parking lot was all started by members of the Cossacks when a group of them surrounded and attacked a group of Banditos who were just pulling up and in fact were not even off their bikes yet. And the Cossacks MC is not a member of the COC. Thus, how can the cops in Waco claim the COC is a "criminal organization" when the only owns who were doing anything illegal were not members of that organization nor were they even invited to the event? If anything the members of the Texas COC were victims of a crime.

But sadly, none of that matters to the cops in Waco. They didn't care that it was only a small group in the parking lot who started this. They arrested everyone in the vicinity wearing anything biker related and charged them all with serious felony offenses. And it did not matter to the Waco PD it was only a handful (like 3 I think) of Cossacks that drew firearms and shot at the Banditos they had surrounded. Instead the cops opened fire on everyone in the parking lot, killing 9 and injuring almost 30 indiscriminately.

Bottom line, I believe what happened was a huge mistake. I believe when the couple of Cossacks drew and fired at the Bandidos, there was an trigger-happy overreaction from the police that resulted in a massacre. And everything that's happened since is the Waco PD's attempt to cover up the fact that they royally screwed up and killed and injured a lot of innocent people, not to mention put at risk hundreds more, biker and non-biker equally, when they unleashed a hail of bullets like they were at the OK Corral.
Posted by Armymann50
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 11:14 am to
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overreaction from the police that resulted in a massacre
5.56 will be the perferred weapon when the ME does his report.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 9:15 am to
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Bottom line, I believe what happened was a huge mistake. I believe when the couple of Cossacks drew and fired at the Bandidos, there was an trigger-happy overreaction from the police that resulted in a massacre. And everything that's happened since is the Waco PD's attempt to cover up the fact that they royally screwed up and killed and injured a lot of innocent people, not to mention put at risk hundreds more, biker and non-biker equally, when they unleashed a hail of bullets like they were at the OK Corral.



I understand what you believe happened and I honestly don't know what happened. So much mis information has been put out it is hard to actually know what the facts are in this case. I do believe that this DA will have a very hard time proving that all of these bikers were involved in crimes whether they were or not.
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