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re: Marvel movie fan jumping into Marvel Comics
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:20 pm to Baloo
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:20 pm to Baloo
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The original Secret Wars is one of the single most despised comics in the entire history of Marvel. I cannot, in good conscience, recommend it to another human being to read on purpose, unless he (and it has to be a he) is 11 years old.
Secret Wars was Marvel's first big cross-over event and was popular enough to generate a sequel event (which did sucked mightily) and pushed Marvel into creating more large cross-over events over the following years. The series not only introduced the Venom sympiote (which has had enormous impact in the Spider titles over the decades) and Titania (meh) but also had Doom in one his most shining moments. It's by no means a Fall of the Mutants, but to call it "one of the single most despised comics in the entire history of Marvel" is complete bullshite.
One of IGN's picks for best comic book events
BamSmackPow's #4 in their list of Top Marvel Events
Hell, even the thread at Comicvine doesn't seem to have anyone else who dogs it anywhere even close to what you've said
If you didn't like it, that's fine. But to toss your own conjecture out there like it's carved in stone among the rest of the readers is ridiculous.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 3:34 pm to Bard
The Marvel staff had a virtual mutiny against Jim Shooter over Secret Wars. It was what began the end of his tenure as editor in chief. The recent book on the history of Marvel comics had a huge section on Secret Wars: it was a massively despised comic, so much so that Shooter had to do a lot of the work on it himself because several writers and artists refused to help out.
It was designed to sell toys to kids, and it was called Secret Wars because market research showed that kids bought toys that had the word "secret" or "war" on the packaging, so they used both. I'm not kidding.
Secret Wars II, of course, was even worse, but the original was widely derided at the time. It was reviled by the comic world at the time.
It is to Tom DeFalco's credit that he took the idea of Spider-Man getting black duds and turned it into a sentient character in the Spider-Man comic. DeFalco would, eventually, take over as editor-in-chief from Shooter.
Secret Wars made a lot of money because it was marketed specifically to children to sell them toys. It's not a high point in Marvel storytelling, and it alienated a lot of the talent (it's one of the issues that cause Byrne to quit and go to DC)
It was designed to sell toys to kids, and it was called Secret Wars because market research showed that kids bought toys that had the word "secret" or "war" on the packaging, so they used both. I'm not kidding.
Secret Wars II, of course, was even worse, but the original was widely derided at the time. It was reviled by the comic world at the time.
It is to Tom DeFalco's credit that he took the idea of Spider-Man getting black duds and turned it into a sentient character in the Spider-Man comic. DeFalco would, eventually, take over as editor-in-chief from Shooter.
Secret Wars made a lot of money because it was marketed specifically to children to sell them toys. It's not a high point in Marvel storytelling, and it alienated a lot of the talent (it's one of the issues that cause Byrne to quit and go to DC)
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