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re: Russia's Victory Day 2015 Parade
Posted on 5/10/15 at 2:16 pm to HarryBalzack
Posted on 5/10/15 at 2:16 pm to HarryBalzack
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That's the plane Clint Eastwood stole, right?
we actually had that one first too
Posted on 5/10/15 at 2:19 pm to Vito Andolini
New Orleans Super Bowl Victory parade>>>>>>>>>anything the Russians got
Posted on 5/10/15 at 2:21 pm to WeeWee
happens about as frequently too
Posted on 5/10/15 at 3:38 pm to Lago Tiger
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They understand that most Americans are to busy working and really don't give a rat's arse about Russia .
while most Russians wait in line for food and toilet paper along with benefit checks
Posted on 5/10/15 at 3:40 pm to jeffsdad
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So there are Democrats in Russia?
such a lazy argument
the Russian population is super conservative due to their almost brain washing from the Eastern Orthodox church.
But they sure do love handouts.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 3:42 pm to Vito Andolini
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Russia is no longer a communist country. Authoritarian perhaps, but not communist.
lets be for real lots of them still live on handouts
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Lots of Russians making money like good capitalists these days.
You mean the oligarchs while most of the rest of the country is still poor. They had a rise in the middle class for a while but thats coming to a crash.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 3:57 pm to Revelator
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Would be cool to see it once!
Have you missed the reaction to Jade Helm. Some of the kooks would be in open rebellion if tanks started rolling through DC.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 3:59 pm to Vito Andolini
Meh, the Nazis did it way better
Posted on 5/10/15 at 5:06 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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such a lazy argument
the Russian population is super conservative due to their almost brain washing from the Eastern Orthodox church.
But they sure do love handouts.
So Russia is just a colder version of Mississippi?
Posted on 5/10/15 at 5:12 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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the Russian population is super conservative due to their almost brain washing from the Eastern Orthodox church.
That's tripe. Less than 10% of the Russian population attends church at least once a month.
Talk about lazy arguments.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 5:21 pm to Tigris
Lots of uninformed opinion here of Russia and Russians.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 7:19 pm to Vito Andolini
Russia has us beat. Just by looking at their military you can see moral and love for their country. There is brotherhood and unity. They preserve their traditions. In 50 years Russia will still be Russia. We on the other hand are a bunch of pussies who are getting taken over by outsiders.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 7:28 pm to Vito Andolini
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A common myth in the U.S., however, the data does not support this conclusion.
I suppose you are referring to my assertion that the USSR would not have been able to defeat Germany absent US aid and intervention since it's very difficult to refute that FDR was a Soviet sympathizer through and through. And your little referenced quote does not do anything to indicate that the Soviets would have defeated Nazi Germany absent US intervention.
There is very little minimization of Soviet resources in regard to manpower. Their pool of manpower to draw from and land in which to keep their production centers outside of peril from German bombers or capture was immense. That, however, in and of itself, would not have been enough for them to march to Berlin absent US technological and material aid and the effect of US intervention into the war. Yes the USSR displayed tremendous production capabilities in WWII, no one disputes this. But the aid the USSR received from the US and Britain allowed them to conduct, maintain, and sustain massive offensives logistically that they otherwise would have had severe difficulty with. There is much more to winning modern wars than simply producing lots of weapons. The supply of trucks to maintain fast and long moving supply lines in a timely fashion so as to sustain and exploit penetrating offensives was of the utmost importance to the Soviet war effort. That is a technological AND material asset provided to the USSR that itself completely transformed their military capabilities. Rail cars, food stuffs, raw materials, etc. There is a tremendous deal that went into bolstering the Soviet production numbers as well as their ability to fully employ and take advantage of their production through military logistics. Logistics was essential to the fast, penetrative, and decisive style of warfare that was necessary for success in the European theater in WWII. Simply referencing Soviet production capacity is not a valid argument to suggest their ultimate victory over Germany absent US intervention. Otherwise, how does it explain the events of 1941? Economy and production are merely FACTORS in military success.
US intervention was THE deciding factor in WWII. The USSR perhaps could have forced a draw or even taken back a deal of territory, but a drive to Berlin absent US aid and intervention was very unlikely. The British would have been impotent to pose any real threat to Germany at this point as well. US and British bombing campaigns put severe strain on Germany's already limited resources for oil. The Luftwaffe was forced in the latter stages of the war to dedicate immense assets to fighting the Allied bombers, which offered the Soviets even greater domination of the skies in their successful post-1943 operations.
The Soviets were a tremendous force during the Second World War, but they still required the massive resources and efforts of the Western Allies to ultimately defeat Germany in May 1945. Now imagine the US never enters the war at all and offers no supplies the USSR at all. What does a timeline for Soviet victory over Germany look like now? What does it look like if Britain and Germany come to terms? I'd say it looks not particularly good.
This post was edited on 5/10/15 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 5/10/15 at 7:28 pm to Champagne
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Yes, but, until recently, we did not allow them to run our Fed, State and Big City govts.
In this narrative, I assume that politicians started being corrupt right around 2008/09, correct?
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:10 pm to Sleazy E
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Russia has us beat. Just by looking at their military you can see moral and love for their country.
Posted on 5/10/15 at 10:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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while most Russians wait in line for food and toilet paper along with benefit checks
False. Russia has no welfare programs unless you're legitimately handicapped. You work or you starve. There is a social security type of deal though.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:16 am to Tigris
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That's tripe. Less than 10% of the Russian population attends church at least once a month.
Talk about lazy arguments.
the population is still super conservative, hence the overwhelming support for anti gay laws.
Eastern Orthodox is part of the fabric of the slavic culture. You don't need to be a church going person to be conservative.
get your head out the sand
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 2:50 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 2:36 am to Screech
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False. Russia has no welfare programs unless you're legitimately handicapped. You work or you starve. There is a social security type of deal though.
What are you talking about
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Russia is a welfare state. We have a much higher level of social guarantees than other countries with similar productivity and per capita income levels. In recent years, more than a half of public expenditure has been going into the social sphere. Over the past four years, our social spending has grown by 50% in absolute numbers, or from 21% to 27% in relation to GDP. None of these social guarantees was shaken by the crisis of 2008-2009. In fact, the wages of public sector employees even grew during that period, together with pensions and other social benefits. But our people are definitely not satisfied with the current situation, and their dissatisfaction is well justified.
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Pensions and welfare payments
About 60 per cent of Russian families are dependent on state-sponsored allowances and benefits. We have been able to achieve a significant increase in terms of pension payments and are determined to increase them further to compensate against inflation. However, our primary concern now should be the protection of families with children.
Thats from RT news, you still can get benefits if you don't work. Its a big problem with their declining male population bc they just drink all day and die
LINK
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 2:48 am
Posted on 5/11/15 at 3:24 am to Vito Andolini
Just watched the whole thing. That was badass and Russia has the GOAT national anthem.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:38 am to Vito Andolini
frick Russia, China, N Korea, Cuba and all Communist Countries
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