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re: Thinking about joining the military soon and...

Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Menji
Las Vegas
Member since Jan 2009
668 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 12:55 pm to
In a nutshell:

Join the Air Force or Navy, based on the next paragraph. Whoever guarantees you the best job.

*Get a guaranteed job*, in a field that has some sort of in-demand civilian equivalent or trains you for one (anything medical, etc). Don't pick something because it sounds cool. Example: Aircraft mechanic sounds cool. Junior enlisted ones work like dogs and the market is saturated on the civilian side. On the other hand, my ex was an enlisted computer programmer in the AF. She did her 3 years, got out, has no bachelor's degree...but she has a skill and security clearances, and makes $100k+. She could make $70k and work from home.

While you're in...GET ALL THE EDUCATION (tuition assistance) YOU CAN. If you like military life and may make it a career, balance education with doing a good job. If you don't care for military life, just keep your nose clean, focus on education, and get that honorable discharge. Use your GI Bill for something that'll make you money.

No idea about the 51 (I'm an officer), but apparently it's not great but not awful. So....no computer programming for you....so I'd maybe look into jobs that teach you other skills....like electrical work, plumbing, etc. Money to be made there, on the outside. Don't fall for the rolling in the dirt/shooting guns/ooo-rah type jobs, thinking you can get security gigs later. That market's saturated and drying up anyway.You can maybe be a cop, but you can do that anyway....and those jobs wreck your body.

I feel my time in has been a great positive, even though I hate it a lot of the time and am admittedly not a very "military" person (I don't do well with authority...go figure). It's especially great for males who grew up without a solid father figure around. I'm a much more complete person because of it. I'm looking forward to getting out, though.

Basic training will vary by service, but...I've heard Air Force basic is cake. My prior enlisted officer friends who were in other services before said that their basic training sucked more, but the officer basic training was harder....if that makes sense. Just get in shape before you go, be able to pass the fitness test before you go, do what you're told, and you'll be fine.

Feel free to ask other, more specific questions. I work with active and retired guys from all 4 branches, so I can get answers even if I don't know them myself.

And yes, the recruiters are all bullshitting you. IF YOU DON"T GET IT IN WRITING (guaranteed job, assignment location, anything else), IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE RECRUITER SAYS.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125863 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Which is the best branch? Talking benefits, living conditions, etc.



AF
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4842 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:40 pm to
Join the Army.

Go to Ranger School.

Everything else doesn't matter.
Posted by craig8sm
Member since Jan 2015
3371 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 1:48 pm to
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* Which is the best branch? Talking benefits, living conditions, etc.



I imagine there isn't much difference. in that regard.

quote:

* How do you feel your time served affected you? Positively, negatively, etc.


most definitely a positive experience. Don't get me wrong, you will not love everything about service life, but it's very rewarding if you allow yourself to open to it.
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* How is basic training?


Can only speak for the Navy but winter in Great Lakes, Ill was nothing like I expected. Full Metal Jacket was the hot movie about the time I went in. Needles to say it was both a relief and a let down, if that makes any sense.

Anyone who put's down service life isn't worth taking advice from. The life isn't for everyone, and most of the people I knew that had hard times/crappy experiences brought with them crappy attitudes.

Remember, It's never as good as some claim and it's never as bad as some say.

Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36411 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 2:38 pm to
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* Which is the best branch? Talking benefits, living conditions, etc.
I'm partial to the Army... Anything but the Marines in terms of contract obligations... I'm pretty sure the Marines are a "best needs for the Marines" are how your job/position is selected

* A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no? I feel like my recruiter is bullshitting me lol.
Yikes. I scored a 99 and was railroaded to Human Intel... I'd take more practice tests and try to get that GT score up

* How do you feel your time served affected you? Positively, negatively, etc.
Best decision of my life... I was 21 and had to figure out what to do with my life and it was the best way to use the next 5 years of my life

* How is basic training?
It's only 9 weeks now, I went for 13 and it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't easy. Best advice is since you have to do the push-ups anyway, don't sham and cheat yourself, it'll suck at first pushing yourself, but you'll be better in the long run and you have NOTHING else to do. Just do the exercises until you can't anymore when you're getting smoked and soon, you'll be cut from marble.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 2:39 pm
Posted by CJM
Member since Jan 2015
3213 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 2:41 pm to
Thanks for the advice guys. Although I do feel mildly retarded because of my ASVAB score now haha.
Posted by KISS ARMY
Da parish brah
Member since Jan 2015
431 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:11 pm to
Coast guard
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17948 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

* A 51 on the ASVAB is pretty shitty, no? I feel like my recruiter is bullshitting me lol.


You're fricking retarded. Don't go Air Force. Please
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7049 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 4:59 pm to
Geaux Navy

Except for 13 Months in Vietnam I loved the Military. As for your grades just relax and take it again, i am not a brain surgeon but not stupid either, but do not test well.
However have accomplished a ton in my life.

Good luck

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