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re: Russia Unveils New Main Battle Tank, Among Other Things

Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125564 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 12:57 pm to
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It's like some of you are totally unaware of all the cutbacks NATO went though at the end of the Cold War.



NATO nations still have F-16's right????

More numbers does not mean better more effective in battle.

This is modern warfare

Lets not forget the Russian military has basically zero combat experience.

Training, equipment and combat experience all favor NATO
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65107 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:10 pm to
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NATO nations still have F-16's right????

More numbers does not mean better more effective in battle.

This is modern warfare



If you're going to use an example of "modern warfare" the F16 is a poor choice. It's a 1970's era fighter that's totally outclassed by more modern fighters and very vulnerable to modern SAM systems like the Russians have by the gross.

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Lets not forget the Russian military has basically zero combat experience.



What do you think they're doing in the Ukraine?

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Training, equipment and combat experience all favor NATO


As far as US or British troops, yes. Maybe even the Germans. As for the rest of NATO... Meh.
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:16 pm to
Pretty much what this dude said.

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We've always been better in equipment and training. I read an article a while ago that said NATO now outnumbers Russian forces, too, but naturally can't find it at the moment.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13780 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

StraightCashHomey21


quote:

NATO nations still have F-16's right????

More numbers does not mean better more effective in battle.

This is modern warfare

Lets not forget the Russian military has basically zero combat experience.


Training, equipment and combat experience all favor NATO



And the US has the most experienced army in modern history. We have been at war for 14 years. Our logistics are the best in the world. And logistics are what win the war. You can have the best plane or tank but when it runs out of fuel and ammo it is a worthless.

And nobody has mentioned China in this discussion. China has the largest army in the world, the largest manufacturing facilities. If the Russians invaded Europe and the US entered the war on the European side, do you really think that China would oppose their greatest trading partner over Russia? And if China were to enter the war against Russia, they would not stand a chance. China has a standing army of over 2 million and a population of over a billion. In terms of a conventional war the Russians probably don't have 2 billion bullets. It would be like ants coming over the boarder.
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