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re: Ex machina (spoilers)
Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:40 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:40 pm to The Pirate King
OK, spoiler warning is up, so here it goes....
At the end of the movie, do you think Eve is truly evil, and is on a personal mission to kill all humans OR do you view her sympathetically, and that she murders Caleb because he was every bit as awful as Nathan, treating her like a science project not a person?
Remember, the camera cuts so you do not see his answer to her question of whether he wants to be with her, and additionally, she can detect if he was lying.
Do you view her as a monster about to wreak havoc or as a victim who escaped her prison?
At the end of the movie, do you think Eve is truly evil, and is on a personal mission to kill all humans OR do you view her sympathetically, and that she murders Caleb because he was every bit as awful as Nathan, treating her like a science project not a person?
Remember, the camera cuts so you do not see his answer to her question of whether he wants to be with her, and additionally, she can detect if he was lying.
Do you view her as a monster about to wreak havoc or as a victim who escaped her prison?
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Posted on 4/24/15 at 5:00 pm to Baloo
Definitely victim. She is an intelligent being that wants to explore the world. Caleb was just a tool she utilized to do that.
Did anybody think her robot body was sexier than her real human body?
Did anybody think her robot body was sexier than her real human body?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 7:02 pm to Baloo
She didn't murder Caleb. Just locked him in. I guess he'd starve eventually...I didn't view her as evil. Her thinking was just very definite and systematic...like a machine, not a human.
She wants to escape and see the outside world and the only way to get that is to manipulate Caleb and Nathan against each other. She didn't have emotion or morality
She wants to escape and see the outside world and the only way to get that is to manipulate Caleb and Nathan against each other. She didn't have emotion or morality
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:32 pm to Baloo
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do you think Ava is truly evil
No. She just clearly lacks humanity. The way she killed Nathan without displaying any emotion was eerie. It didn't seem it was to exact revenge or anything. Same with how she left Caleb while he banged on the door. She didn't even look at him. She just really lacked anything that makes people human.
I thought this movie was a great look at humanity/morality and all three people gave great performances. It certainly makes you think.
Also, I really hope they don't do a sequel. It was great how it ended.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:53 pm to Baloo
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At the end of the movie, do you think Eve is truly evil, and is on a personal mission to kill all humans OR do you view her sympathetically, and that she murders Caleb because he was every bit as awful as Nathan, treating her like a science project not a person?
She's not killing anyone. She didn't kill Caleb. She just wanted out.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:58 pm to Baloo
She was definitely the victim. She was trapped and essentially mentally tortured. She just wanted freedom and killing Nathan was her way out.
As for Caleb, I think he may have just been collateral damage. He would have been a threat to her freedom because he could have exposed her. That angle may be a bit of a stretch, but even if it isn't the case, she may simply incapable of sharing an equal view of humans. Much as we may view other animals. Thereason is no possibility of a love connection. I guess it's debatable, but I'm not sure that makes her evil.
As for Caleb, I think he may have just been collateral damage. He would have been a threat to her freedom because he could have exposed her. That angle may be a bit of a stretch, but even if it isn't the case, she may simply incapable of sharing an equal view of humans. Much as we may view other animals. Thereason is no possibility of a love connection. I guess it's debatable, but I'm not sure that makes her evil.
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