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re: Avengers AOU Tomatometer Watch Thread - 79%
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:03 am to DelU249
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:03 am to DelU249
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when I was a kid, movies for all ages had murder and sex. Now in order to have a movie acceptable for children the only people that can die are a horde of weird aliens that don't speak or a horde of robots without a soul.
I do agree we could use some higher stakes in these films. Given that each movie is just another chapter in a continuing story, it gives the titular character narrative immunity (until the actor's contract runs out). We know Iron Man and Cap are safe in Ultron because they are already in the ads for Civil War.
They have also taken back the deaths that did occur. Nick Fury was just faking in Winter Soldier. Groot grows back in GotG. Even Agent Coulson is back on TV. People need to die, and they have to stay dead. I totally agree we need some stakes.
Also, the MCU is largely sexless. There is hardly any sex in this universe, and it could use some. OK, Tony gets it on offscreen, and there's a great line from Starlord about his ship looking like a Jackson Pollock painting under blacklight. But the only character who seems interested in sex who is not portrayed as a cad, is Captain America of all people. His relationship with Black Widow was so interesting precisely because it explored the loneliness of a guy who had been frozen for 50 years and wouldn't mind dating again. And Black Widow was wearing an arrow necklace throughout Winter Soldier, hinting at a relationship with Hawkeye, but again... off screen.
Part of the problem is the dearth of female characters. Black Widow is, right now, the only female super hero on earth in the MCU. And there's Gamora in space, but she's not all that interested in sex either.
God, Captain Marvel cannot get here soon enough. Need to break up the sausage fest.
Posted on 4/29/15 at 10:09 am to Baloo
the only universe that has been sexless without being boring was tolkein's
I agree. there is nothing at stake in these movies for me to care about.
even worse is that no one dies and then Natalie portman punches loki (and what these movies really need are a villain) and says "that was for new York"
unless she's an insurance agent, what the frick is she talking about?
I agree. there is nothing at stake in these movies for me to care about.
even worse is that no one dies and then Natalie portman punches loki (and what these movies really need are a villain) and says "that was for new York"
unless she's an insurance agent, what the frick is she talking about?
Posted on 4/29/15 at 12:24 pm to Baloo
quote:
I do agree we could use some higher stakes in these films. Given that each movie is just another chapter in a continuing story, it gives the titular character narrative immunity (until the actor's contract runs out). We know Iron Man and Cap are safe in Ultron because they are already in the ads for Civil War.
They have also taken back the deaths that did occur. Nick Fury was just faking in Winter Soldier. Groot grows back in GotG. Even Agent Coulson is back on TV. People need to die, and they have to stay dead. I totally agree we need some stakes.
Also, the MCU is largely sexless. There is hardly any sex in this universe, and it could use some. OK, Tony gets it on offscreen, and there's a great line from Starlord about his ship looking like a Jackson Pollock painting under blacklight. But the only character who seems interested in sex who is not portrayed as a cad, is Captain America of all people. His relationship with Black Widow was so interesting precisely because it explored the loneliness of a guy who had been frozen for 50 years and wouldn't mind dating again. And Black Widow was wearing an arrow necklace throughout Winter Soldier, hinting at a relationship with Hawkeye, but again... off screen.
Part of the problem is the dearth of female characters. Black Widow is, right now, the only female super hero on earth in the MCU. And there's Gamora in space, but she's not all that interested in sex either.
God, Captain Marvel cannot get here soon enough. Need to break up the sausage fest.
All of this.
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