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re: AZ/AZ State spinoff thread: 5 CFB programs that shouldn't suck like they do
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:56 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:56 am to TigerintheNO
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I would disagree with that, Purdue is known as Quarterback U
I remember back in the day the Saints played the Colts there and all the announcers talked about is how shitty the stadium is. That has to be holding them back, I'd assume. Even Illinois and Minnesota upgraded. They have to have the worst football facilities in the B1G right now.
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Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:56 am to TigersSEC2010
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3. UCF - The school is fricking huge and in the middle of possibly the most talented high school football area in the nation and still suck
Did you mean USF? UCF just won the Fiesta Bowl two years ago. And even though it's huge, it's still a relatively new university with three established programs.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 11:59 am to ZZTIGERS
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I always thought that one of the New Mexico colleges should be better than they are. Bordering Texas, Oklahoma & Arizona, along with California one state away, you would think that with even the left over recruits from that area, they would be more competitive. Although, there are a lot miles between those areas too. IDK, I may be way off.
New Mexico is barren as frick, though. They have absolutely zero in-state talent and the decent California kids get offers to places where there is shite to do.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:00 pm to MikeyFL
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Did you mean USF? UCF just won the Fiesta Bowl two years ago. And even though it's huge, it's still a relatively new university with three established programs.
I guess I really should've listed both. They're both in the same situation, though UCF is still very much ahead. Both schools should be vying for the top 25 every season.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:00 pm to lsutigers1992
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3. Illinois: I can't believe this team just fights to be bowl eligible. Every now and then they pull a Rose Bowl or Sugar Bowl out their arse but they should be better than that.
They are surrounded by numerous well-established programs that have had much more consistent histories (e.g. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Iowa, Notre Dame, Missouri, Louisville, etc.).
Also, would you really want to spend 3-4 years of your life in Champagne, IL?
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4. Purdue: That program has been clueless since Joe Tiller left. Well...before he left, technically. This is the school that gave us Brees, Everett, Griese, Dawson, etc.. Now they're a joke.
Shitty coaches will do that to you.
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5. (tie) UNLV/Hawaii: I know the schools' commitment to football is weak, but come on. It shouldn't be hard to get at least 3-star talent to come to Vegas and Hawaii.
You could make the argument for UNLV, but Hawaii? It's not the location that isn't desirable as much as it is the sheer distance and difficulty of travel arrangements for players and their families.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:00 pm to lsutigers1992
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Hawaii has one winning season since the Sugar Bowl. You'd think you'd be able to get a good enough coach and a couple of Samoans and win enough games to at least get to your own bowl game. They fell off a cliff like Tulane fell off a cliff after Bowden.
Hawaii is a cool spot to visit but would suck arse to live. Anytime you want to travel somewhere you need to travel 3 time zones away. Not to mention their stadium and I'm sure facilities are a dump it's not hard to figure out why they suck.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:01 pm to TigersSEC2010
Coog High (Houston) really should be a dominant program. They are easy to get into, in an area with great talent, they have a new stadium. Their issue is they cant stop cheating.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:02 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Both schools should be vying for the top 25 every season.
I disagree with this and could argue that UCF has overachieved. They are a commuter school with no fan support sandwiched between several in state juggernauts.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:03 pm to Sevendust912
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Virginia
They have the 81st lowest acceptance rate in the country as a public school. That one is not much of a shocker.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:05 pm to Jamohn
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excellent academics
Admissions are quite a hurdle as well.
Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Michigan at least have the tradition and pedigree that allows them to get their hands on elite student-athletes in that part of the country.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:05 pm to saint amant steve
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They have the 81st lowest acceptance rate in the country as a public school. That one is not much of a shocker.
If Stanford, Michigan, and USC can pull it off you can't tell me UVA can't get the thugs into the program.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:06 pm to MikeyFL
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Did you mean USF? UCF just won the Fiesta Bowl two years ago. And even though it's huge, it's still a relatively new university with three established programs.
UCF's time is coming. Right now, they're somewhat of a sleeping giant in a sub-par conference.
Really, any FBS school in the state of Florida has the potential to be great, even FIU and Florida Atlantic.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:06 pm to Sevendust912
The UVa administration probably doesn't want to lower standards.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:07 pm to saint amant steve
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(e.g. Nebraska, Wisconsin, Iowa, Notre Dame, Missouri, Louisville, etc.).
Illinois has a hell of a history--you just have to go back forever to find it. National championships, Dick Butkus, Red Grange. They can (or could) recruit Chicago better than any of those schools you mentioned except Notre Dame. And Notre Dame and Nebraska are the only schools who are flat-out historically better. Wisconsin was horrible until Barry Alvarez showed up. All of Louisville's history is in the last 20 years. Iowa is very average.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:09 pm to lsutigers1992
Iowa has a 40 year history though with stability. Ever since Mike White left Illinois they have floundered except a couple of seasons. I can not remember if White got them on probation or not. He left very quickly I do remember.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:13 pm to lsutigers1992
Sigh....here goes:
The university gives zero fricks, so no $$ is given to the program. Lackluster facilities and no money plus the fact their state has absolutely ZERO talent= a shitty program.
The lack of in-state talent hurts them and the rise of UGA and Bama really hurt them since they used to get all their talent from GA. They spend enough money and have enough tradition to where they can compete, but they need a recruiting rockstar as a coach.
Based on what? All of Illinois' talent is north in the state and there is a lot of competition for that talent. (ND, Michigan, OSU) Plus, Illinois talent alone isn't enough to win considering this is another school that pumps hardly any money into the program.
A program in podunk Indiana with such a small fanbase? Are you fricking serious?
There is literally no reason for big recruits to go to these schools.
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1. Colorado: With the town, the state, and the tradition they established in the 80s and 90s, there's no excuse for this team to be a complete doormat.
The university gives zero fricks, so no $$ is given to the program. Lackluster facilities and no money plus the fact their state has absolutely ZERO talent= a shitty program.
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2. Tennessee: They've had a 10-year hangover, but they're showing signs of coming out.
The lack of in-state talent hurts them and the rise of UGA and Bama really hurt them since they used to get all their talent from GA. They spend enough money and have enough tradition to where they can compete, but they need a recruiting rockstar as a coach.
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3. Illinois: I can't believe this team just fights to be bowl eligible. Every now and then they pull a Rose Bowl or Sugar Bowl out their arse but they should be better than that.
Based on what? All of Illinois' talent is north in the state and there is a lot of competition for that talent. (ND, Michigan, OSU) Plus, Illinois talent alone isn't enough to win considering this is another school that pumps hardly any money into the program.
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4. Purdue: That program has been clueless since Joe Tiller left. Well...before he left, technically. This is the school that gave us Brees, Everett, Griese, Dawson, etc.. Now they're a joke.
A program in podunk Indiana with such a small fanbase? Are you fricking serious?
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UNLV/Hawaii: I know the schools' commitment to football is weak, but come on. It shouldn't be hard to get at least 3-star talent to come to Vegas and Hawaii.
There is literally no reason for big recruits to go to these schools.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:14 pm to lsutigers1992
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Illinois has a hell of a history--you just have to go back forever to find it.
Yes...pre-World War II. That's like questioning why Navy, Army, Harvard, and Yale aren't more successful now.
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They can (or could) recruit Chicago better than any of those schools you mentioned except Notre Dame.
Despite it's size, Chicago doesn't produce many top-flight/blue chip football prospects. It's a metro area dominated by basketball.
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Wisconsin was horrible until Barry Alvarez showed up. All of Louisville's history is in the last 20 years.
True, but they also sign the majority of their players from Minnesota and Wisconsin.
And all of UConn basketball's success has been in the last 20 years, but that doesn't change the fact that they are a reputable program in the Northeast.
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Iowa is very average.
At least they are consistently average. Plus, Kirk Ferentz is one of the longest-tenured coaches in the country.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:17 pm to Sevendust912
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If Stanford, Michigan, and USC can pull it off you can't tell me UVA can't get the thugs into the program.
What thugs has Stanford recruited? They have actually been pretty clean amid their recent success.
Michigan and USC have been reputable programs since the '20s. They have always been household names in the world of college football and will therefore be able to sell their brand nationwide.
Also, USC is in Southern California and Stanford is right outside of San Francisco. Enough said.
Virginia has the potential to be successful with a big-name coach, but keep in mind the number of major universities within close proximity to Charlottesville.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:19 pm to sms151t
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Coog High (Houston) really should be a dominant program. They are easy to get into, in an area with great talent, they have a new stadium. Their issue is they cant stop cheating.
Like UCF, they are a commuter school with shitty fan support, in shitty conference. I can argue they have overachieved in their history, and up until last year they had horrible facilities.
That's not even taking into account they are probably at best 10th in the pecking order for recruits in Texas.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:21 pm to saint amant steve
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What thugs has Stanford recruited? They have actually been pretty clean amid their recent success.
Michigan and USC have been reputable programs since the '20s. They have always been household names in the world of college football and will therefore be able to sell their brand nationwide.
Also, USC is in Southern California and Stanford is right outside of San Francisco. Enough said.
Virginia has the potential to be successful with a big-name coach, but keep in mind the number of major universities within close proximity to Charlottesville.
I'm just saying it can be done. UNC gets them in for basketball and football and they are on UVAs level as far as academic prestige.
UVA's problem has been coaching, but when you hire guys like Al Groh you can expect to suck I guess. There is certainly no shortage of talent in Virginia/Maryland/DC.
This post was edited on 4/10/15 at 12:22 pm
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