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re: Brandon Harris/ LF7/ AJ Videos, Scrimmage Videos, Spring Break 4/12 Updates
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:31 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:31 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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Flynn finally became a starter as a fifth-year senior. He started every game that season except the SEC Championship in which he was injured.
Matt didn't play vs Middle TN State in '07. Flynn was great. I think many are overlooking that in '07 on O we had:
- 1st yr OC
- 1st yr OL coach
- 1st ye WR coach
- Only 1 returning WR with much experience who missed several games due to injury (Early)
- Another WR with the worst case of drops in our history (LaFell)
- A makeshift OL (Hitt and Carnell on the right side)
- MF was hurt much of '07.
- And yet our O toyed with a veritable who's who among DC's (Foster, Strong, Muschamp, Saban, Coach59, and the OSU guy).
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 8:39 pm to dukke v
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Flynn had some GREAT games in 2007. With some very KEY completions...
Funny how you NEVER mention how good Flynn was....
Flynn was the fricking man
But he had some truly terrible games too.
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:26 pm to bmy
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But he had some truly terrible games too.
Which games were these? I suppose the '05 SECCG was bad but he only played for like a qtr when the game was out of hand. Others?
Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:40 pm to AlwysATgr
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Which games were these? I suppose the '05 SECCG was bad but he only played for like a qtr when the game was out of hand. Others?
Flynn 2007 vs kentucky
17-35. 130 yards 1tds 1int
3.7 ypa
2007 vs Florida
14-27 144 yards 1td 1int
2007 vs USC
8-19 70 yards 1td 1int
Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:40 pm to AlwysATgr
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Which games were these? I suppose the '05 SECCG was bad but he only played for like a qtr when the game was out of hand. Others?
Loss vs Kentucky.. 17/35 130 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
Win vs Florida.. 14/27 144 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Win vs SCAR.. 8/19 70 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
You can maybe include.. Win vs Bama.. 24/44, 353 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. He threw for a lot but he played terrible football.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:08 am to bmy
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But he had some truly terrible games too.
I'd take the '07 offense again, right now.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 6:17 am to bmy
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Loss vs Kentucky.. 17/35 130 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT
Win vs Florida.. 14/27 144 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Win vs SCAR.. 8/19 70 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
You can maybe include.. Win vs Bama.. 24/44, 353 yards, 3 TD, 3 INT. He threw for a lot but he played terrible football.
I wouldn't call either the UF or UK games "bad" on his part. Raw stats may suggest such but there's more to the story than that. And certainly not the Bama game - he was about all we had on O in that game. The USCe game was bad.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 7:08 am to Nix to Twillie
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What I mean to say is while Flynn wasn't a gunslinger
flynn threw the ball a shite ton in 2007... 45 attempts vs bama and 47 (!!!) against arkansas.
he threw it 34 times against auburn and 35 times against kentucky.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:16 am to Nix to Twillie
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I really don't think you realize just how painfully awful his QB play was. The difference between Anthony Jennings and Matt Flynn is not an inch, it's a mile.
I don't think we need Flynn's production to win a NC. I'd love to have it, but we could get '09 Jefferson production and win it all.
Literally all we need are 3-4 completions to move the chains that Jennings couldn't give us last year.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:47 am to Quid Pro Quo
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100 is the highest QBR you can get. You must be talking about RAT, passer rating.
I don't give a shite about ESPN's made up rating.
Bottom line: If either QB can produce like Jennings did against Wisconsin, aTm, Notre Dame, Florida, and Kentucky, it will be a special season.
If we get production like Alabama, Arkansas, or MSST, it will be a long season.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:49 am to Nix to Twillie
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Edit: What I mean to say is while Flynn wasn't a gunslinger either and had only a modest completion percentage (56% to AJ's %49), it was everything else. The decision-making, situational awareness, ability to look off receivers...all of that was INCREDIBLE to what we saw in 2014, not just minimally better. Flynn's a guy you use a lot in demonstrating what kind of passer we need and that AJ COULD be, but I think the gap is wider than you realize.
Not really. More repetitions and practice, and Jennings can definitely perform at least to the level of Flynn. People forget just how loaded the offense was that Flynn had.
Flynn's numbers weren't all world, so it's not like they can't be reproduced, it's just that we have seem some terrible to mediocre QB play for too long (outside of Mett 2013).
This is a reasonable statline that Jennings can obtain next year.
300 att 7.5 ypa 2250 yards 55% 18 TDs 7 ints, 100 car 3.5 ypa 350 yards 4 TDs. With the run game we have and defense, that should be good enough for 10 or 11 wins. Then we come back in 2016 being loaded everywhere and a QB in his senior year and 3rd year of starting. That is when we should really think playoffs.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:11 am to Datbayoubengal
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More repetitions and practice, and Jennings can definitely perform at least to the level of Flynn.
I just don't see how that's going to happen. When AJ is the starter I hope he performs well. I would hate for him to continue to stink it up like last year while harris is standing on the sidelines.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:13 am to Datbayoubengal
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Jennings can definitely perform at least to the level of Flynn
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:55 pm to CptBengal
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CptBengal
Why is that funny? Flynn was at best a decent QB for LSU in 2007. I believe Jennings can at least get to Flynn's level by his senior year, but with our WR talent and multiple years at starter he could exceed it. Really, it just depends on how he develops from here on out. Saying he can't improve is just silly talk.
Watch Blake Sims in any games prior to last year, then watch him in 2014. He definitely developed his passing game. Trevone Boykin, another guy who developed from one year to the next. Brandon Allen from Arkansas, again he too improved from 2013 to 2014.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:07 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Watch Blake Sims in any games prior to last year, then watch him in 2014. He definitely developed his passing game. Trevone Boykin, another guy who developed from one year to the next. Brandon Allen from Arkansas, again he too improved from 2013 to 2014.
All of those had/have a much better arm than Jennings. His ceiling isn't nearly that high.
Flynn threw for over 2,500 yds splitting time, I don't think Jennings will ever approach that.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think people are devaluing the fact that Jennings will be throwing to the same group of WRs for his entire career.
That continuity alone should dictate that a competent passing game will develop.
That continuity alone should dictate that a competent passing game will develop.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 3:52 pm to chilge1
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That continuity alone should dictate that a competent passing game will develop.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 6:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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ll of those had/have a much better arm than Jennings. His ceiling isn't nearly that high.
lol, this has nothing to do with arm strength and the sooner you people get over it, the better off you will be. What about Hutson Mason last year with possibly a weaker arm than Jennings in a pro style offense at UGA? Did not stop him from completing 68% of his passes with 21 TDs to 4 ints. Bama fans worried about Blake Sims arm thinking he wouldn't be able to make same throws I know you are talking about. The stronger arm Coker should be better right? Except he wasn't.
Jennings has enough arm strength to make the throws we need to win. The decision making and accuracy is what he needs to improve on.
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Flynn threw for over 2,500 yds splitting time, I don't think Jennings will ever approach that.
Flynn threw for 2407 yards at 6.7 ypa. For reference, Jennings threw at 7.1 ypa, let's say Jennings improves that to 7.6. It would only take him 317 attempts to accomplish what Flynn did in 359, and that's still a pretty mediocre ypa average.
Hell, if Chark becomes this beast playmaker and deep threat every player and coach is raving about, I can see Jennings over 8 ypa.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 6:05 pm to Datbayoubengal
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lol, this has nothing g o do with arm strength and the sooner you people get over it, the better off you will be
With Jennings, yes it does.
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What about Hutson Mason last year with possibly a weaker arm than Jennings in a pro style offense at UGA? Did not stop him from completing 68% of his passes with 21 TDs to 4 ints. Bama fans worried about Blake Sims arm thinking he wouldn't be able to make same throws I know you are talking about. The stronger arm Coker should be better right? Except he wasn't.
Hudson Mason and Sims have better arms than Jennings. He's horrible in his intermediate throws and scares the hell out of me on every attempt.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 6:42 pm to CptBengal
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Jennings can definitely perform at least to the level of Flynn
Why is that funny? Its not like Flynn was an alltime great at lsu.
Posters say JJ sucked his entire career and he has 2 season with a higher passer rating than Flynn in 07.
I think when Jennings is a 5th year senior he will be a decent qb.
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