- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: I still am not sure how UVa and Duke are both getting 1 seeds?
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:14 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:14 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:
Duke has 3 losses to UVA's 2. Duke's losses to @NC State and vs. Miami drop them below UVA imo. It's about body of work, not head to head.
I know it is about body of work. You can listen to the talking heads and they'll say the same thing I did.
Right now, Duke has wins @Wisconsin, v. Michigan State (neutral), UNC x2, @Louisville, @UVA, and v. ND. You'll be hard-pressed to find a team in the country with a more impressive set of wins.
Duke is 6-1 v. RPI Top 25
Virginia is 5-2 v. RPI Top 25
Duke is 10-2 v. RPI Top 50
Virginia is 8-2 v. RPI Top 50
Duke is 17-3 v. RPI Top 100
Virginia is 15-2 v. RPI Top 100
Duke is 21-3 v. RPI Top 150
Virginia is 21-2 v. RPI Top 150
At this point, Duke is closer to a No. 1 seed lock than anyone not named Kentucky. The wins are just too impressive for their current seed to be 'tenuous.'
2
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:20 am to hoopsgalore
quote:
At this point, Duke is closer to a No. 1 seed lock than anyone not named Kentucky. The wins are just too impressive for their current seed to be 'tenuous.'
First off, I don't think either are that tenuous. Both will likely get a 1 imo. There's no denying the quality of wins that Duke has.
UVA has wins @Maryland, @UNC, @ND, vs. Louisville, @ full strength VCU. Basically I think both should be 1 seeds.
Posted on 3/9/15 at 11:23 am to hoopsgalore
That comp is Duke versus UVa, which says nothing about both getting one seeds. Expand your comp, leaving out Kentucky, who is a no-brainer 1-seed.
V. RPI top 25
Duke 6-1
UVa 5-2
Nova 6-1
Wisky 2-2
Zona 3-0
v. RPI top 50
Duke 10-2
UVa 8-2
Nova 11-1
Wisky 8-2
Zona 6-0
v. RPI top 100
Duke 17-3
UVa 15-2
Nova 15-2
Wisky 15-2
Zona 13-2
Considering the fact that Duke is the only team in that group without a conference title, I don't see how you can call them a 1-seed lock. Looking at those breakdowns, Villanova clearly has the best resume, and I'd argue Arizona has the second best. They don't have a lot of top 50 wins, but they are undefeated. And against the top 100, they have the same winning percentage as the other squads.
If Duke were running away on the metrics, I can see giving them a one seed over everyone despite the lack of a title, but I just don't see their resume as being considerably better than anyone else's save Wisconsin (who I just can't justify giving a one seed, which is a shame, because I like them better than any team in this grouping, and they are gonna get the Kentucky screw job).
If Duke wins the ACC tourney, I would give them the 1-seed over UVa, and I can see both of them getting one if both Nova and Zona fall in their tourneys. But right now, I'd still go UK, Nova, Zona, ACC champ.
V. RPI top 25
Duke 6-1
UVa 5-2
Nova 6-1
Wisky 2-2
Zona 3-0
v. RPI top 50
Duke 10-2
UVa 8-2
Nova 11-1
Wisky 8-2
Zona 6-0
v. RPI top 100
Duke 17-3
UVa 15-2
Nova 15-2
Wisky 15-2
Zona 13-2
Considering the fact that Duke is the only team in that group without a conference title, I don't see how you can call them a 1-seed lock. Looking at those breakdowns, Villanova clearly has the best resume, and I'd argue Arizona has the second best. They don't have a lot of top 50 wins, but they are undefeated. And against the top 100, they have the same winning percentage as the other squads.
If Duke were running away on the metrics, I can see giving them a one seed over everyone despite the lack of a title, but I just don't see their resume as being considerably better than anyone else's save Wisconsin (who I just can't justify giving a one seed, which is a shame, because I like them better than any team in this grouping, and they are gonna get the Kentucky screw job).
If Duke wins the ACC tourney, I would give them the 1-seed over UVa, and I can see both of them getting one if both Nova and Zona fall in their tourneys. But right now, I'd still go UK, Nova, Zona, ACC champ.
Page 1 of 1
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News