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re: House of Cards: Full Season Discussion (WITH SPOILERS)

Posted on 2/28/15 at 3:35 am to
Posted by BamaChick
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 3:35 am to
After I got done, I think this is my least favorite season.

The way Frank, Claire, and especially Doug acted didn't work for me.

And all the plotlines - except for Rachel's murder and Claire leaving Frank - went nowhere.

Strife with Russians? Eh, we give up.

Claire becoming an ambassador? She fricks up and quits.

Doug turning on Frank? Psyche!

Freddie? Oh, let's make him a lawn guy at the white house so he can continue to have folksly talks with Frank.

Remy? I quit.

Heather Dunbar? Let's let her frick with Frank with no reprisals.

AmeriWorks? Eh, it's dead.

Senator Mendoza? He's just gone.

Meechum? He's a mute now. He's only needed to threaten some author guy.

Jackie Sharpe? Ultimate betrayal of Frank and nothing happens.

Thomas the author? Eh, the book is over.

And NOW is when Claire decides that Frank being the one in power is a problem? Yeah, okay.

Good acting and so-so writing but outside of Rachel's death and Claire walking out, nothing else happened.
Posted by dpd901
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:01 am to
Yeah. It felt like the entire season was setting up for next season. And now I have to wait a year for that. Claire is treading dangerously close to Skyler Whte territory.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

The way Frank, Claire, and especially Doug acted didn't work for me.
I can sort of agree and sort of disagree. I actually think Doug was most like himself in this season. Doug has always been kind of messed up, cold, calculating and weirdly vulnerable. He showed all of that brilliantly this season. Emmy worthy performance, IMO.

Frank wasn't really himself, but I think that's because of Claire. Consider if he'd made it in and Claire had decided to just be First Lady and do like Hillary Clinton did IRL; have a big issue she wanted to tackle as First Lady, then wait until her husband was out of office and run for a Senate seat somewhere that she could definitely win. Frank suddenly doesn't have any of that "home" stuff to deal with, and he can be much, much more effective. Almost everything that went wrong this season was her fault. She needed patience (and I get that she's already waited a long time), but that scene at the very end of the season, when Frank told her how it really was, was true. He really is the one who's always run things; she's always been his support, not a true "partner". But it's always been about that for them, and rather than throw a fit that could ruin things for both of them, she could have decided to do what I described above, re: Hillary Clinton.

Remy quitting made sense. He wasn't happy with being where he was; he left Frank on purpose years ago and was forced to work for him, and him alone, if he wanted a job in politics. The problem was that Frank didn't really respect him anymore. He had him because he was the best option, not the best period.

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Heather Dunbar? Let's let her frick with Frank with no reprisals.
That'll be rectified. I fully think Frank pulls it together with Claire (whether he wins her back or says she had a meltdown, but "my country is too important to me to let the loss of my wife deter me blah blah") and goes after Dunbar, hard, especially with Doug back on his team.

I do agree with the idea that this season was really just setting us up for season four, and that was a big disappointment. If we have to wait a year between seasons, this one should have given us more. The final episode was powerful, but it felt like I was midway through the season, not like the season was really ready to end.
Posted by johnnydrama
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 2:20 pm to
I pretty much agree with what BamaChick said. I would add that Claire is just a fricking count.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 8:06 pm to
Doug repeatedly let me down this season... It looked like he was going to be the ultimate Machiavellian power player then poof, back to being a foot soldier for Frank the douche. Doug is still the best #2, Remy wasn't hard enough.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110070 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

After I got done, I think this is my least favorite season.

The way Frank, Claire, and especially Doug acted didn't work for me.

And all the plotlines - except for Rachel's murder and Claire leaving Frank - went nowhere.

Strife with Russians? Eh, we give up.

Claire becoming an ambassador? She fricks up and quits.

Doug turning on Frank? Psyche!

Freddie? Oh, let's make him a lawn guy at the white house so he can continue to have folksly talks with Frank.

Remy? I quit.

Heather Dunbar? Let's let her frick with Frank with no reprisals.

AmeriWorks? Eh, it's dead.

Senator Mendoza? He's just gone.

Meechum? He's a mute now. He's only needed to threaten some author guy.

Jackie Sharpe? Ultimate betrayal of Frank and nothing happens.

Thomas the author? Eh, the book is over.

And NOW is when Claire decides that Frank being the one in power is a problem? Yeah, okay.

Good acting and so-so writing but outside of Rachel's death and Claire walking out, nothing else happened.



Agreed with all of this. The whole season is really just filler. It's just a reset, and we know Frank is going to beat Dunbar regardless, beat the Republican nominee, then we'll have yet another season of filler, until Season 6 or so where they would have already completely shite the bed with the series.

The first season is an all time classic, and last season was pretty good, but nowhere near as good as the first. This season was just creatively bankrupt. Getting Frank to face off with Putin and making Claire be an ambassador to the UN (which IRL not a fricking chance would Claire have become an ambassador, especially since it just screams to the world that they're a bunch of power hungry weasels) and then have it go nowhere is just bullshite.

And the show thinks it's a hell of a lot smarter than it really is. Yeah, they struck gold in Season 1, but I think the creators have gotten cocky if they think they're on the level of The Wire or Breaking Bad. In episode 2, I kind of had to do a double take and hope they weren't going with a metaphor so obvious as "break a few eggs to make an omelet".

Really, they should have ended it this season. The board was set for Frank's fall, and the only thing that's even brought up from the past is Rachel, and that's it. No real mention of the deplorable shite Frank and Claire have done in the past, and this season doesn't make Frank really all that bad. Now one of the main cogs to Frank's destruction is dead, and the other one is behind bars for another few years. Really, they should have done a time jump in season 3 to when Lucas gets out of jail and then proceeds to leak everything without giving a frick, and then everything falls apart for Frank.

All in all I'd give this season a 6 out of 10. Not horrible, but it's a far cry from the first season and really feels like a waste of time compared to the previous seasons.
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 10:25 pm
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 3/1/15 at 10:04 pm to
Claire wants to be Vice President but in name only. It's either going to be a dual partnership which is impossible or Frank is going to kill her ASAP. I think it's time for Meecham to step up for Frank.

Prediction: Season 4 opening scene is a dead Claire Underwood. Frank can't afford to divorce in the middle of a nomination. Sympathy card gets him reelected.

ETA: Frank is more ruthless than anyone gives him credit for and you don't hit your dog cuz it will bite you. Yes, Claire must die!
This post was edited on 3/1/15 at 10:14 pm
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