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re: For those of you who are intimately familiar with Zappa................

Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by JoeMoTiger
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Posted on 2/22/15 at 9:42 pm to
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Naw...not even up there with Edgar Varese. The problem is Zappa was a pop music guy too and so that kills his rep in the classical music world. Maybe if he would have followed a more rigid academic path he would get more recognition in the classical music community.


You know I'm not sure, some of the layered orchestral stuff was pretty heady shite and will stand the test of time, his use of shifting time meters is what all the prog metal and djent bands are doing today and he was using it 35-40 yrs ago.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 2/22/15 at 10:27 pm to
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some of the layered orchestral stuff was pretty heady shite and will stand the test of time, his use of shifting time meters is what all the prog metal and djent bands are doing today and he was using it 35-40 yrs ago.


I'm not disagreeing with you but just playing devil's advocate. What he was doing was innovative in the pop/ rock music world. But modernist composers had been using shifting time meters for 50 years or more before Zappa. There were other guitarist/ composers around at the same time bringing a more "modernist classical" approach to rock. Robert Fripp comes to mind. And there were a lot of Jazz guitarist doing amazing stuff in the 40s and 50s.
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