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re: Drew Bledsoe: Tom Brady benefited greatly from his system unlike Manning, Elway

Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Groot
Member since Jan 2015
73 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:30 pm to
You seem smart. Brady put them ahead (well Edelman did with two little push offs) and then Butler finished it.

Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?

Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl. This talk about Brady being the best quarterback of all time is just silly. He isn't the best talent, he doesn't have the best production and he hasn't had the best career either.

He's a really good quarterback and certainly has a place waiting for him in the Hall as a first ballot guy, but this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:39 pm to
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when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.


Now we're getting somewhere.

"Safely outside the top ten" implies that he's fifteen or even later on your list.

So...who's in your top fifteen?

Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:40 pm to
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You seem smart. Brady put them ahead (well Edelman did with two little push offs) and then Butler finished it.

Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?

Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl. This talk about Brady being the best quarterback of all time is just silly. He isn't the best talent, he doesn't have the best production and he hasn't had the best career either.

He's a really good quarterback and certainly has a place waiting for him in the Hall as a first ballot guy, but this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.

Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?

What if Eli Manning doesn't pull off two of the most miraculous plays in Super Bowl history?

You're literally playing the "what if" game, and then getting mad at others whenever they do the same thing.
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Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl.

Another "what if."

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ut this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.



As I've told another Brady-hater in another thread, you could trade Brady's postseason accomplishments with Peyton Mannings (1-2 in Super Bowls, less than stellar playoff record), and Brady would still be an all-time great quarterback. Top 10, easily.

Brady is a 2x MVP. Only 8 quarterbacks in the history of football can say that. And both of his MVP seasons were top 10 seasons for a quarterback in the history of the sport.

Saying he is safely outside the top 10 is literally laughable.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112481 posts
Posted on 2/4/15 at 5:08 pm to
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Groot




Please explain to me a situation in which you would give Brady credit for a win? Feel free to be as imaginative as possible for I know how hard it will be to look past you irrational hate of him and come up with a positive thing to say
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:25 am to
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Point is, if Vinatieri misses those two kicks and the Patriots lose in over time without getting ball or Harrison doesn't pick off McNabb when they are driving or butler miss times the jump, are we still having this talk about Brady?


If frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their asses on the ground.

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Again, if it wasn't for the tuck rule or Bledsoe, Brady never even makes that first Super Bowl.


C + P above statement.

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He isn't the best talent


The QB position isn't just about talent.

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he doesn't have the best production and he hasn't had the best career either.


He's had the best playoff production and post season career.

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this talk as him as the best quarterback of all time when he is safely outside of the top ten of all time is just silly.


Your brain has AIDS.
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