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Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:11 am to
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:11 am to
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Any reviews on it, and what do you guys use if there is something better?



If you're shooting Critical Duty from a short barrel, you may want to reconsider changing it. But if it's from a 4.5-5" barrel that is optimal. The way hollow points work is a bit counter intuitive - the faster the bullet is flying, the less penetration you get since the bullet expands quicker. There may be some exceptions to this rule, but for the majority of rounds it's true.

Every bullet is designed to expand consistently at a certain velocity. That's why I carry Hornady Critical Defense - it's light, yes, but it delivers consistent performance from a short barrel. My carry guns (M&P9c, Kahr CM9) both have short barrels. I want the best performance out of them.

What is optimal performance? Well the FBI standard of 12-18" of penetration in bare gel is the best medium we have to test rounds. This accounts for both underpenetration and overpenetration. Optimally, I would rather my bullet stay in the intended target and not pass through, so I like it to fall in this range in tests. Does it perfectly simulate a human body? Not really, but it does give us a basis to compare rounds. I am no ballistician but I understand the basic concept.

I have 175gr Hornady Critical Duty in my M&P40 CORE 5". It is designed for longer barrels and will penetrate less than out of a shorter barrel.

The YouTube channel that really opened my eyes was ShootingTheBull410. He is the only guy I've seen that consistently tests hollow points from short barrels since that is what most of us civilians will be doing.

Anyway, rant over. Hope I at least made an ounce of sense.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/25/15 at 11:36 am to
I watched some TNoutdoors9 videos, and he tests a lot. One question I have is unless it is a really fat person, why would you want your bullet stopping at the 12-18" mark instead of 10-12"? It seems like it would discharge all of its force inside the body cavity instead of having some left over to penetrate to 18"

In the videos, he tested Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, Critical Duty, and Hornady XTP, and came to the conclusion that the XTP was the best out of the four
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 2:43 pm to
bapple, I recently picked up a box of 124 grain Monarch Ammo for my 9mm's. Mistake or okay? Go easy.
Posted by doliss
Northern VA
Member since Sep 2009
990 posts
Posted on 1/25/15 at 6:30 pm to
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The YouTube channel that really opened my eyes was ShootingTheBull410. He is the only guy I've seen that consistently tests hollow points from short barrels since that is what most of us civilians will be doing.



Love this guy's data, does very good research and presents it well
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