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Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 5:38 pm to
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He might have landed on his feet, but he didn't have control of the ball. He had control once he was going down.


Bull. When his right foot (2nd foot) planted with ball controlled he stopped his momentum moving inside and completely turned his body and gets headed to that corner of the endzone and across defender to get outside of him with ball away from defender. The defender was falling down in front of him and defender even tried to face outside with Dez going there. Part of this fall and turn by defender (after catch secured 2 feet down and move around defender) is what brought shields leg up and whipped Dez's knee and weaken push and tangled up Dez's leg and started fall. But a,b, and c of rule were met.

Look at Dez's stop and turn in slow motion and see his body stop, turn, and head point to corner of endzone. He is in control looking for endzone while Shields cannot make same kind of stop without falling. It was amazing to watch frame by frame and see his change of directions from jumping inside of Shields to make catch up high to coming down and then planting right foot and turning 110 degrees while Shields has lost control. Then the trip happens.

But even after trip he still gets a push with left foot and tries to pivot on right arm and get left arm close to goal before right forearm and then left leg go down. He is strong as heck and constantly fights for extra yard even when it's not smart and it's not going to move the chain. It actually sometimes causes him to be more prone to injury and getting ball stripped by another defender showing up as he is fighting for yards. Something is not right with him in the head, but fighting for yards and showing strength and agility is what he does along with a few things probably left unsaid.
Posted by iwasthere
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2010
1883 posts
Posted on 1/12/15 at 6:26 pm to
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It was amazing to watch frame by frame and see his change of directions from jumping inside of Shields to make catch up high to coming down and then planting right foot and turning 110 degrees while Shields has lost control. Then the trip happens.


He didn't make the catch up high. The defender knocks the ball loose while he is up high. When Dez's left foot lands(this is his first foot that touches) he doesn't have control of the ball. He gets control as his right foot touches(his left is off the ground at this point, so this is his first foot down). Before his second foot(his left that he attempts to lunge from) touches, his body is in a horizontal position. This indicates he is going to the ground, and since he hasn't gotten 2 feet down yet, the rule of going to the ground kicks in. With this rule, he must maintain control through the process of contacting the ground. Also with this rule, it doesn't matter if he was hit, tripped, pushed, pulled, or whatever. Please link a still pic showing his body position right before his left touches for his lunge. If you watched frame by frame, you would see the defender knocked the ball loose from him before any of his feet touched down. He didn't have control until his right foot landed.
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